I bought the Best of Scooby Doo movies with the Batman eps on them. This box set has been one of the main things I have watched lately. And it got me to thinking of how all the HB cartoons existed in one universe. And thanks to WB syndication, there was show were they put all the DC Hanna Barbara and Filmation stuff into a half hour. So does this mean that all those DC shows are in one continuity? It wouldn’t be hard to do since they share nearly the same animation designs and each ep is self contained. They also shared a lot of the same voice actors. The Filmation shows help explain what some of the heroes were doing before and during the Superfriends. IF they all fit in the same universe, that universe would have lasted nearly 25 years, even longer than our beloved Timmverse. But then I guess it was a different time back then. Everything was made into a cartoon and it was either HB or Filmation that did it. I love how through the cartoons the Brady Bunch, Happy Days, and Batman 60's show could exist in the same universe. I hate how in today’s world nothing can really cross over with anything else unless they are produced by the same company and/or owned by the same company or so on and so on, etc.
Thank you for reading my rambling. I might come back later and ramble some more. DrGreenEvil
Post by filmationbatmanfan on Sept 25, 2006 13:06:57 GMT -5
I feel the Hanna Barbera and Filmation versions of the DC Universe are connected and yet they're not. Filmatin represents the classic Silver Age while HB represents the late Silver Age/Bronze Age. The Superman/Batman Adventures was the name of this repackaged series which combined some of the Super Friends shows with all the 1960's Filmation Super Hero shows. Here's the chronology:
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN: By Filmation, 2 Superman eps and 1 Superboy ep weekly. 1966. THE SUPERMAN/ AQUAMAN ADVENTURE HOUR: By Filmation, 2 Superman eps, 1 Superboy ep. weekly. Also 2 Aquaman eps and 1 DC Super Hero ep. Weekly (JLA, Flash, Green Lantern, HAwman, Atom, Teen Titans) 1967 THE BATMAN/ SUPERMAN ADVENTURE HOUR: By Filmation, 2 Batman eps ( a 2 parter and a full 7 minute ep) weekly also 2 Superman eps (2 parter) and 1 Superboy ep. weekly. 1968.
SUPER FRIENDS By Hanna Barbera w/ Wendy, Marvin, and Wonder Dog. 16 hour long episodes 1 weekly 1973
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF BATMAN: By Filmation 16 episodes. All 30 min. 1 ep weekly w/ BatMite and voices of Adam West and Burt Ward 1977
THE ALL NEW SUPER FRIENDS HOUR: By Hanna Barbera First series w/ Wonder Twins 3 7 minute eps and 1 30 min ep. weekly. 15 weeks total 1977 THE BATMAN/TAZRAN ADVENTURE HOUR: By Filmation 1977 Batman reruns. New Tarzan eps and reruns weekly. 1977
CHALLNEGE OF THE SUPER FRIENDS: By Hanna Barbera: 2 eps. weekly. season 2 w/ Wonder Twins followed by Challenge series w/ Legion of Doom. 1978 TARZAN AND THE SUPER 7: By Filmation: Tarzan, WebWoman, Manta & Moray, Freedom Force, Super Strecth & Micro Woman includes 1977 Batman reruns & Jason of Star Command LIVE ACTION 1978
THE WORLD'S GREATEST SUPER FRIENDS: By Hanna Barbera 3 rd season w/ Wonder Twins 8 new episodes and reruns 1979 TARZAN AND THE SUPER 7: By Filmation repeats 1979 minus Jason of Star Command.
SUPER FRIENDS HOUR: By Hanna Barbera: 1st season of 80's shorts. 3 a week along with a 30 minute reruns episode. 1980: BATMAN AND THE SUPER 7: By Filmation. 1977 Batman reruns spotlighted. along with Web Woman, Manta and Moray, Freedom Force, and Super Stretch & Micro Woman. 1980
SUPER FRIENDS: 2nd season of 80's shorts. Half hour format. 1981
SUPER FRIENDS: THE LOST EPISODES: 1983. Last of 80's shorts.
SUPER FRIENDS: The Legendary Super Powers Show. w/ Firestorm 2 eps. weekly
SUPER POWERS TEAM: GALACTIC GUARDIANS: 30 minute ep. weekly. 1985.
As you can see, the 60's Filmation stuff was in the late 60's and the Super Friends was in the 70's and 80's. The only thing simultaneus that happened between the Filmation and Hanna Barbera Universes was the mutual sharing of Batman and Robin in the late 1970's. While the Dynamic Duo both appeared on both series, the Bat Embargo affected the villains. The Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Clayface, and Mr. Freeze were all used by Filmation in 1977 while HB used the Riddler and Scarecrow in 1978. The Superman/Batman Adventures played all the 1960's Filmation shows and from the SuperFriends, we saw most of the 1977 episodes with the exception of the WonderTwins episodes, Drag Race and Shark, the first 10 episodes of the 1978 season w/ the Wonder Twins though that whole series is now on commercial DVD release, and the 80's shorts (except Mxyztplk Strikes Again). Unfortunately, all these episodes are badly butchered. Hope this helps. Cheers.
Post by filmationbatmanfan on Sept 25, 2006 23:30:56 GMT -5
Sorry about that Dr. Greenevil. The Bat Embargo I mentioned is what I feel is a great theory. I was hoping to get an interview with former Filmation head Lou Scheimer to discuss the Filmation versions of Batman on LOG. I spoke with an assistant who unfortunately told me that Mr. Scheimer is not well, but did promise to pass the message on and she said, that it would probably be a few months. But I know for a fact that one of my questions I would ask Mr. Scheimer was why the Riddler was excluded from the 1977 Batman series and if it did have anything to do with the Challenge of the SuperFriends series. And Dr. Greenevil. I pointed out where the connections were not. What I failed to mention was that the connections to me were the following: Batman and Robin were voiced over by Olan Soule and Casey Kasem in both studios. Adam West voiced over Batman for both. Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, and the Atom were Barry Allen, Hal Jordan, Carter Hall, and Ray Palmer. I guess Superman had a similar look yet different. Cheers.
Post by filmationbatmanfan on Sept 26, 2006 20:34:22 GMT -5
Thanks Shadowbat99. To me, it's all a matter of where your Bat Roots began. For most people of my generation, it was either the comics or the TV series. For me, it was the New Adventures of Batman 1977, then came the All New SuperFriends Hour that same year. And from there on, my Batman passion got bigger and even though many view the Filmation and Hanna Barbera shows as cheesy, for me, it was pure magic. If I ever get to meet Adam West or Burt Ward someday, I'm going to tell them my first exposure to Batman was the Filmation cartoon they voiced over. I wonder even now what their reactions would be. Thanks again. Cheers.
I was born in '73, I grew up with the comics and the cartoons as well. Even back then, tho, I was never a big fan of the 60's show. My first comic was Batman 189 (first silver Scarecrow), and the one episode of Superfriends that always sticks out in my mind for some reason is the one where Scarecrow made Batman realize his worst fear of losing his parents in Crime Alley. I think that was the first time that topic was ever addressed outside the comic medium.
I met both West and Ward years back at a convention. Got both their autographs. Burt Ward is really excitable and enjoys hearing the fans, he also will chat about current incarnations. West, I am sad to say was another experience, and Im not the only one with those type of stories Im afraid. Unless you praise West for the 60's show and his rendition of the character he doesnt seem to want to be bothered with you. I brought up to him how the Super Powers cartoon (which he voiced) was my favorite of the whole series of early cartoons and he really didnt seem to care.
Post by filmationbatmanfan on Sept 27, 2006 11:27:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up on West and Ward. I've already met Yvonne Craig and Julie Newmar. Both of them were sweet hearts. My first Batman comic given to me was Batman #272. The Underword Olympics was the story and I kept asking as a kid, where was Robin? It wasn't until the first Batman hype of 1989 that I did my homework and discovered that he was either in college or working with the Teen Titans at that time. . BTW: The episode you are thinking about was "The Fear" on the Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians from 1985. It covered Batman's origin and it was the only time we ever saw Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, and Professor Jonathan Crane on any incarnation of the SuperFriends. And you are right. That was the first media version that ever told Batman's origin. I have an ultimate SuperFriends episode guide online. I invite you to check it out. My post regardig the site will have the address. Cheers.
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