Post by havedunter74 on Aug 8, 2008 4:26:54 GMT -5
over in jolly old england The daily mail has been running articles about the age rating of the dark knight (its a 12A) over here and theres been alot of arguments about the film being unsuitable for kids. and because of the Joker's fetish for knives its encouraging kids to use knives for crime etc......
I agree it is a violent film and not suitable for young children but to say its encouraging kids to use knives is ridiculous.
has there been any stories like this in the USA guys?
im just interested to see if its just us small minded english folk.
Post by All Star Batman on Aug 8, 2008 12:27:46 GMT -5
I haven't heard about anything like that in the US, but I wouldn't be suprised if there were. Yes, it is a violent film and not intended for children, but they actually think that they would start playing with knives because the Joker does? For god's sakes, parents like that should just explain to their children what's good and what's bad and not blame movies, or TV for that matter.
Post by snooch2dnooch on Aug 8, 2008 12:35:11 GMT -5
this kind of problem has been around for as long as movies have been around. people are going to use movies as a scapegoat because they are too weak to take responsibility for their own actions. if you do some research, you'll see that A Clockwork Orange, Taxi Driver, and Natural Born Killers (just to name a few) have all come under fire in the media for 'causing' violence. i have seen these movies, and i don't believe any of them encourage violence, let alone glorify it. taxi driver especially shows how ugly and horrible violence is. the dark knight is being hit with this right now because it's popular. if it were a smaller film, trust me, you wouldn't hear a thing about it.
Post by Dark Nightwing on Aug 8, 2008 19:00:04 GMT -5
Well, the English have always been extremely concerned about violence. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was renamed Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and the Nanchaku were edited out. Only recently has this changed. The Australians have a similar view about violence. America is generally okay with violence.
Post by BruceBatman on Aug 9, 2008 18:23:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I think TDK is a little too intense for the little kids! Not so much because the Joker carries too many knives but because it show some pretty gruesme stuff like the pencil trick, two-face, the Joker's face, the stomach the Joker cut open, etc.
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Mutant Ninja Turtles was renamed Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and the Nanchaku were edited out.
Seriously? Ah carumba.
I read about it online. While that doesn't necessarily make it true, it did have a picture of the edited logo. The word Ninja was inappropriate. I think that is just crazy.
Being a 20 year old college student with no children likely to comeabout in the near and even not so near future, I can't really give a valid opinion on the appropriateness of TDK. I do not like people "dumbing down" television for children. Kids are far smarter than adults realize. From this standpoint, I would rather kids see TDK than something like B&R. The only really bad part about TDK for kids that I saw was the way Two Face was done, the way the Joker used his knife on people, and how Two Face takes Gordon's kid hostage at the end.
However, these are all characters that kids know. And if kids know about it, then they aren't afraid of it. The Penguin in BR was really scary looking. Was I ever scared? No. Because I had been watching BTAS every week. I was really young the first time I saw it too. I would say that WB made Two Face more frightening by not having him in TB because it prevents kids from being exposed to the character (Tommy Lee Jones can only do so much ).
That is just the opinion of an unqualified to judge kid.
Post by heathlegend on Aug 11, 2008 7:10:32 GMT -5
I gotta say, I ain't so sure its the imagery, or the violence that makes it unappropriate for kids, dark as they are, kids get over that stuff, or desensitised to it, its the themes, the ideas. As dark nightwing said, kids are smarter than adults give them credit for and the idea of a man with no agenda but to 'see the world burn' doesn't go over their heads, it gets right in there, I remember as a kid seeing Day of the dead and it wasn't the zombies or gore that got to me, it was the way they humans treated each other, and their different moral stand points, some of them real loose morals, that put the willies up me, and I don't think its a bad thing either, I think films should effect you like that, and there's no reason to hide that stuff from kids, helps them grow, so yeah its the concepts I reckon, freddy kruger ain't so scary, its that fact that he gets you in your dreams.
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