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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 17, 2009 22:27:41 GMT -5
Discuss the amazing new DC event here! To spark a little conversation, Geoff Johns has revealed the mastermind behind the Black Lantern Corps: Nekron. For those unfamiliar with him, here's his wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NekronAlso, here's everyone who's been turned into a Black Lantern so far: Katma Tui Martian Manhunter Elongated Man Sue Dibny Aquaman Deadman Hawk Aquagirl Dolphin Pariah Crispus Allen Garth Firestorm Hawkgirl Hawkman Abattoir Blockbuster Deacon Blackfire KGBeast King Snake Magpie The Trigger Twins Ventriloquist John Grayson Mary Grayson Jack Drake Janet Drake Jack T. Chance Tomar-Re Jade Each death will increase the main Black Lantern battery. When it reaches 100%, who knows what will happen.
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 18, 2009 9:33:46 GMT -5
while i'm a big fan of the series, it really doesnt belong in this area and needs to be moved to the Off Topic section of the board as Blackest Night has very little to do with Batman and is not a Batman comic. we also already have a Blackest Night: Batman thread where all the Batman related Blackest Night things can be discussed. please move it. thanks.
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Aug 18, 2009 11:29:29 GMT -5
Couldn't we have a board that is just for Other Comics? It seems to really trivialize the comic section by having an event like Blackest Night moved to Off Topic.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 18, 2009 12:04:04 GMT -5
This is still DC though.
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 18, 2009 12:37:54 GMT -5
an Other Comics Section would be a great idea. let me talk to Matt and see what we can do.
and All-Star, this isnt the DC comic discussion section, its the Batman comic discussion section. we dont have a GL thread, a Superman thread, a Wonder Woman thread, a Hawkman thread, etc. this section is for comics that relate solely to Batman. and we already have a thread about Batman's role in Blackest Night.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 18, 2009 15:04:23 GMT -5
We've covered other DC comics as well, and Matt even posts the DC solicits on the LoG main page.
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 18, 2009 15:40:49 GMT -5
^ the LOG main page is not this section of the forum. and its rare that a non-Batman related topic is kept in this section. also, all of this is way off topic. i sent Matt a message about the sub-board for non-Batman related comics. the name of this section is Batman Comic Books. Blackest Night is a Green Lantern comic book. so lets wait and see what Matt decides to do here.
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Post by batman1973 on Aug 18, 2009 16:22:27 GMT -5
Hey, you kids, play along nice or we'll take you out of the sandbox and into time out.
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 19, 2009 6:23:10 GMT -5
This thread can stay. Anything DCU related works just fine here, since the Batman comic book section is never exactly bursting with threads/people.
Unfortunately, we don't have enough comic book interest to create an entire 'other' comics board of either DC or Marvel, etc. If that ever is the case, we'll be happy to branch off, though.
Now...back to GL Blackest Night, cause I haven't been keeping up with this...whats going on?!
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 19, 2009 10:40:08 GMT -5
^ well so far, every member for the GL Corps that has died has come back as a Black Lantern as have a number a characters. the Black Lanterns kill other heroes and bring them back as Black Lanterns, which is what happened to Hawkman, Hawkgirl, & Tempest. Black Hand is revealed as being a parasitic entity like Parallax, Ion, & The Predator. Black Hand is also carrying around the skull of the fake Batman corpse. The Spectre is trapped as a Black Lantern. and Dove is the only deceased character that cant be brought back so far, but it hasnt been revealed why yet. the various Lantern corps are fighting each other throughout the universe. the Sinestro Corps is split into 2 factions, one lead by Sinestro, the other by Mongul. the Guardians of the Universe are being held by Scar. the Indigo Corps killed a Green Lantern a Sinestro Corps member. the Red Lanterns and Agent Orange are attempting to attack the Blue Lantern homeworld.
there's probaly some more stuff i'm leaving out, but alot is going on in the series and the tie-ins.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 19, 2009 12:06:58 GMT -5
Some people think that the Batman skull Black Hand has is actually Nekron.
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 25, 2009 14:24:38 GMT -5
SPOILERS FOR BLACKEST NIGHT #5 AHEAD! "Bruce Wayne of Earth...RISE!" - Black hand holds up Bruce Wayne's skull and says that their shooting is actually making Nekron stronger. Then.... - "Bruce Wayne of Earth" - A double page spread of BLACK LANTERN BATMAN! - everyone is in shock and a black lantern ring says "emotional tether registered", obviously engaging all the heroes with a zombie Bruce Wayne. - Nekron tells all the resurrected heroes that they died and came back but they don't know why, he was the one stopping them from everlasting death, he allowed their resurrections. And that they will help him expose the guardians greatest secret and return the universe to a place of quiet, dark order. - A bunch of rings fly out of Black Lantern Bruce Wayne and attach themselves to Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Arrow, Animal Man, Tora, Conner, Kid Flash. - Nekron - "DIE!" - The heroes start dying as Barry runs. Hal ensnares bruce then Nekron says that Bruce Wayne has served his purpose and he can return to rest. Then connection severed as batman explodes.
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Post by jlavaia on Nov 27, 2009 14:47:59 GMT -5
i'm liking Blackest Night alot, but i like the tie-ins more than the actual story. whats interesting with the Batman corpse is what Tim will do now. he planned on putting it in a Lazarus Pit as one of the ways to try and bring Bruce back from the past, but without the corpse now it should be interesting to see where that story goes and what Tim does.
the other thing thats interesting is what will happen when a Black Lantern ring gets to Barry Allen. he's technically dead anyway as he's kind of the new Black Flash right now. and Johns is writing both this and Flash: Rebirth so i'm curious to how he handles this and what will happen there.
and then the prophecy proving to be incorrect again was great. it would seem that Nekron himself wrote the prophecy or that the Guardians had this mapped out or planned or want Nekron around. he kept talking about their secret and the white light from the combined rings of all the colors actually made Nekron get more powerful.
and lastly, Dove seems to be the link to everything. interesting choice from Johns. i guess he likes the character alot. i'm curious to see why he cant be turned into a Black Lantern and how he can harm them by just being around them.
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 27, 2009 15:04:07 GMT -5
i'm liking Blackest Night alot, but i like the tie-ins more than the actual story. whats interesting with the Batman corpse is what Tim will do now. he planned on putting it in a Lazarus Pit as one of the ways to try and bring Bruce back from the past, but without the corpse now it should be interesting to see where that story goes and what Tim does. the other thing thats interesting is what will happen when a Black Lantern ring gets to Barry Allen. he's technically dead anyway as he's kind of the new Black Flash right now. and Johns is writing both this and Flash: Rebirth so i'm curious to how he handles this and what will happen there. and then the prophecy proving to be incorrect again was great. it would seem that Nekron himself wrote the prophecy or that the Guardians had this mapped out or planned or want Nekron around. he kept talking about their secret and the white light from the combined rings of all the colors actually made Nekron get more powerful. and lastly, Dove seems to be the link to everything. interesting choice from Johns. i guess he likes the character alot. i'm curious to see why he cant be turned into a Black Lantern and how he can harm them by just being around them. You may want to check out Batman & Robin #7 in January, which will tie-in to Blackest Night. In the last issues, Dick opened a vault that contained another Batman corpse, and based on the cover to issue 8, they do use a Lazarus Pit. I don't know all the details, but you'll probably have to check that out to get more of the mystery. I'm also curious about if there will be a White Lantern and how Dove seems to immune to the Black Lanterns. Here's an updated list of the Black Lantern Corps for those keeping score: Nekron Scar Black Hand Katma Tui Martian Manhunter Elongated Man Sue Dibny Aquaman Deadman Hawk (Hank Hall) Aquagirl (Tula) Dolphin Pariah Crispus Allen Tempest (Garth) Firestorm (Ronald Raymond) Hawkgirl (Kendra Saunders) Hawkman (Carter Hall) Abattoir Blockbuster (Roland Desmond) Deacon Blackfire KGBeast King Snake Magpie The Trigger Twins - Tom and Tad Trigger Ventriloquist (Arnold Wesker) John Grayson Mary Grayson Jack Drake Janet Drake Jack T. Chance Tomar-Re Jade Superman (Kal-L) Lois Lane (Earth-Two) Zor-El Terra (Tara Markov) Omen Amon Sur Blume Glomulus Solomon Grundy Bzzd Alexander Luthor, Jr. Copperhead Doctor Light (Arthur Light) Madame Rouge Maxwell Lord Psycho-Pirate (Roger Hayden) Khufu Chay-Ara Abin Sur Arin Sur Terry Long Robert Long Hawk (Holly Granger) Tony Zucco Captain Boomerang (Digger Harkness) Ermey Ke'Haan Fentara Rrab Marata Rrab Santara Rrab Azrael (Jean Paul Valley Jr.) Atom (Al Pratt) Jean Loring Wildebeest Laira Qull of the Five Inversions . Roxeaume of the Five Inversions Celsius Tempest (Joshua Clay) Negative Woman Cliff Steele's original body Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) Stealth Harbinger Maseo Yamashiro Yuki Yamashiro Reiko Yamashiro Damage Superman (Kal-El) Wonder Woman Batman (Bruce Wayne) Kid Flash II Donna Troy Ice Green Arrow Superboy (Kon-El) Animal Man Vibe Giovanni Zatara Steel (Hank Heywood III) Ravager (Grant Wilson) Ravager (Wade DeFarge) William Wintergreen Adeline Wilson
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Post by jlavaia on Nov 27, 2009 16:50:29 GMT -5
^ thanks for the updated list. every single Green Lantern that was buried on Oa became a Black Lantern too. and Baby Wildebeest is the Black Lantern, regular Wildebeest was a group of people, none of which are Black Lanterns that we're aware of yet. and the entire population of Coast City prior to its destruction are also Black Lanterns.
also, Psycho Pirate & Earth-Two Superman arent Black Lanterns anymore, neither is Bruce.
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 29, 2009 18:07:19 GMT -5
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Post by jlavaia on Nov 29, 2009 18:31:49 GMT -5
^ that would be interesting. i wonder which one they would make become White Lantern though. Don Hall couldnt be brought back as a Black Lantern, and Dawn Granger harms them from just being near them. maybe they'll be a corps too and Don Hall will power the battery with Dawn being the leader of the corps or something.
the only problem with the a White Lantern is that when all the corps combined fired their rings at Nekron it created a white light that made him stronger. but maybe the white lantern would be tweaked or have raw white power or something. its definitely an interesting thought. maybe it'll be Dove wearing every colors ring that could do it. she could fire white energy and she cant be hurt by Black Lanterns. everyone originally thought it would be Hal to do this as he had worn a ring from almost all the corps. but that has me thinking, with the Black Lantern ring chasing Hal, if he gets one on that might be what is needed. the essence of other rings can be felt, so maybe he needs a Black Lantern ring to use against the Black Lanterns.
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Nov 30, 2009 2:48:18 GMT -5
I read most of what has been going on of this yesterday.
The Batman Tie-in was not very good. The art got progressively better, but it was pretty lame. Damian wasn't acting Damian. Dick wasn't acting like Dick. It was cool to see Dick, Tim, and Damian together in all of there new costumes. The only part of the tie-in that I enjoyed was when Dick would call on Robin and Tim would instinctively answer. Other than that, not so good.
As for the main series, it has been pretty good. I think in order to appreciate it though, you have to really like Hal and Barry who are characters that I don't find that interesting. I was liking the less relevant characters like Mera, the Atom, and Atom Smasher more than I was the two Rebirthed characters.
I thought a Zombie Batman would be scarier. Come on. Bruce Wayne is capable of so much. Sure he has a big part in the story, but it would have been better if he could have kicked some butt too. Missed opportunity. I'm looking forward to the next issue of B&R. So far, I'm a lot more confident in Morrison than I am Johns. I need to check out Final Crisis. That would be awesome.
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Post by trashsmasher on Dec 4, 2009 14:03:10 GMT -5
The discussion about whether or not this thread belonged in here was funny to me. BN is very much about Batman. Issue 0 has Bruce's skull on it, does it not?
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Post by All Star Batman on Dec 4, 2009 18:19:05 GMT -5
The discussion about whether or not this thread belonged in here was funny to me. BN is very much about Batman. Issue 0 has Bruce's skull on it, does it not? And issue 5 had Black Lantern Batman.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 4, 2009 22:10:51 GMT -5
The discussion about whether or not this thread belonged in here was funny to me. BN is very much about Batman. Issue 0 has Bruce's skull on it, does it not? while we arent going to rehash the discussion, issue 0 did and it didnt. while its supposedly from the corpse left behind from when Batman's mind was transplanted back in time, Dick Grayson has another Batman body. so the body of Batman thing is kind of an interesting mystery right now. and to the part i bolded: while a Black Lantern Batman does appear in issue 5, this series has absolutely nothing to do with Batman. so no, i'm sorry, its not about Batman at all. its a Green Lantern storyline, and a Hal Jordan/Barry Allen team-up book. the book is about Nekron's return to our realm and its the conclusion of Geoff John's War of Light Trilogy.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 4, 2009 22:14:01 GMT -5
now back on topic, i'm thinking Kyle Rayner will also play a big role in the ending. he's dealt with, and was able to defeat, Nekron on his own. and that was when he was younger and less powerful. he may also be a candidate for the White Lantern Corps, if we are indeed going to see that.
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Post by All Star Batman on Dec 4, 2009 22:36:07 GMT -5
The discussion about whether or not this thread belonged in here was funny to me. BN is very much about Batman. Issue 0 has Bruce's skull on it, does it not? while we arent going to rehash the discussion, issue 0 did and it didnt. while its supposedly from the corpse left behind from when Batman's mind was transplanted back in time, Dick Grayson has another Batman body. so the body of Batman thing is kind of an interesting mystery right now. and to the part i bolded: while a Black Lantern Batman does appear in issue 5, this series has absolutely nothing to do with Batman. so no, i'm sorry, its not about Batman at all. its a Green Lantern storyline, and a Hal Jordan/Barry Allen team-up book. the book is about Nekron's return to our realm and its the conclusion of Geoff John's War of Light Trilogy. The other two parts were Rebrith and Sinestro Corps War, right? now back on topic, i'm thinking Kyle Rayner will also play a big role in the ending. he's dealt with, and was able to defeat, Nekron on his own. and that was when he was younger and less powerful. he may also be a candidate for the White Lantern Corps, if we are indeed going to see that. You might not be aware, but Kyle just died GLC 42.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 5, 2009 10:33:29 GMT -5
^ you are correct about the War of Light Trilogy. and i know Kyle died, why do you think i called him a candidate for the White Lanterns? i'm thinking they will need to be deceased characters to defeat the other deceased characters, with Dawn Granger being the living member and carrier of their parasite, like Black Hand is for the Black Lanterns. i should have elaborated more on my theory of the White Lanterns.
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Post by kilowog52 on Dec 22, 2009 21:25:09 GMT -5
I read that Doom Patrol tie-in too, but I thought Valentina Vostok was still alive. When did she die?
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 30, 2009 17:43:48 GMT -5
this is new checklist. this looks interesting, especially seeing Luthor as Agent Orange.
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Post by kilowog52 on Dec 31, 2009 15:29:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, Blackest Night is much better than any of the three crises
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 11, 2010 11:43:34 GMT -5
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Post by All Star Batman on Feb 3, 2010 19:45:44 GMT -5
Uh oh. Look who just got a Black Lantern ring:
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Post by kilowog52 on Feb 13, 2010 19:40:45 GMT -5
The Global Guardians reappeared in the current Green Lantern series before they were killed by Prometheus in Justice League: Cry for Justice. Does anyone know if the Global Guardian Gloss was Chinese or Vietnamese? I could have sworn she was Vietnamese, but Wikipedia says she's Chinese and I don't know if it's right.
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