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Post by darambler20 on Jun 19, 2009 22:27:09 GMT -5
and imagine all the cgi they would have to do to make him look like that. I guess they could go the route as Batman Forever and make him out of a rubber suit so he looks like one of the early ninja turtles. Bane wasn't made out of a rubber suit. If you are talking about his clothes, then maybe I see what you are trying to say. They painted green on to the guy's skin. He was quite muscular. I'm pretty sure he died around the time the movie came out. Kind of sad really. didn't know that. He always looked really "fake" to me.
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Post by jackhammermfzb on Jun 21, 2009 14:40:53 GMT -5
I'd Like To See Booth Reprise His Role [As Zsasz] In The 3rd movie... i always like seeing people reprising there roles even if it's for a cameo
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Post by DrGreenEvil on Jun 25, 2009 22:35:55 GMT -5
I honestly could see Nolan not coming back for a third one. 1) An actor possibly died from the dark portrayal in the movie. Thats gotta razzle anyone. Plus, since it sounds like Ledger was going to be the future of the franchise. Its probably really hard for him to decide where to go next when he already had a full story arc in mind. 2) Why not go out on top ? It would be almost a miracle for the third one to do better than TDK. If he did the third one and that miracle didn't happen - It would be more a soar spot on his record than an accomplishment even if the movie still did really, really, really, really well. People would say "the second was great, but the third was good". Plus, if he doesn't come back. That won't stop the WB from making Bale and the rest of the cast fullfil their contracts, which means a third one. And if it sucks, Nolan has the ability to stand back from it and say "it wasn't my movie" and keep credit for TDK.
My theory on what happens to the franchise after the third one no matter what happens...
Bale won't want to come back for more. So they would just have to recast Batman and at that time they could recast the Joker. For some reason, recasting Ledger alone would be terrible. But replacing both leads would be ok. They will try to keep as much of the realism, but some of the fantastical stuff that Nolan doesn't want will be added in. Only real way to keep a summer blockbuster franchise going.
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Post by Hush Riddler on Jul 5, 2009 9:22:43 GMT -5
*chanting* Riddler. Rid-dil-er. Rid-dil-er.
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Post by darambler20 on Jul 24, 2009 13:27:04 GMT -5
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Post by Eric on Jul 24, 2009 14:11:23 GMT -5
Until I hear it from WB, I aint believing it.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 24, 2009 14:52:54 GMT -5
Here's hoping though.
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Post by darambler20 on Jul 24, 2009 19:02:18 GMT -5
Until I hear it from WB, I aint believing it. I would have to agree with you on that. Also probably means that Nolan wouldn't be attached.
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Post by BruceBatman on Jul 26, 2009 15:18:39 GMT -5
Well I certainly hope that it's true that we're gonna get a 3rd Batman!! And I hope it's with Nolan. We do not want a repeat of the first Batman Movie Anthology!!!!
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Post by Jack the Skull on Jul 28, 2009 7:25:58 GMT -5
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 28, 2009 12:05:19 GMT -5
I have a few comments on this: 1. Keep her far away from Batman as possible! 2. Are they really expecting anyone to believe this? Well, maybe teenage girls. 3. This is just as bad as the Eddie Murphy/Riddler and Shia LeBouf/Robin rumors.
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Post by havedunter74 on Aug 4, 2009 8:28:14 GMT -5
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats the biggest pile of cow-poo I have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by harleyquinn84 on Aug 23, 2009 22:26:54 GMT -5
All I have to say is the new batman movie better be sans Bale he is the worst batman ever.
But on a lighter note I heard Kevin Smith was set to direct and make a cameo as the Peguin, Jason Lee as the Riddler, Ethan Suplee as Bane, and Jason Mewes as the Joker for Batman 3.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 23, 2009 22:43:50 GMT -5
All I have to say is the new batman movie better be sans Bale he is the worst batman ever. But on a lighter note I heard Kevin Smith was set to direct and make a cameo as the Peguin, Jason Lee as the Riddler, Ethan Suplee as Bane, and Jason Mewes as the Joker for Batman 3. First off, Bale's the best Batman we've had. Have you seen Clooney? As for your "news": *facepalm*
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Post by Batlaw on Aug 23, 2009 23:36:22 GMT -5
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Post by Eric on Aug 24, 2009 15:18:02 GMT -5
All I have to say is the new batman movie better be sans Bale he is the worst batman ever. But on a lighter note I heard Kevin Smith was set to direct and make a cameo as the Peguin, Jason Lee as the Riddler, Ethan Suplee as Bane, and Jason Mewes as the Joker for Batman 3. First off, Bale's the best Batman we've had. Have you seen Clooney? As for your "news": *facepalm* Actually, both your statements are personal opinion and not fact. Therefore neither of you are right or wrong, so you cant really correct someone on this type of statement.
Personally, I wouldnt mind if Bale didnt come back.
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Post by coliv1977 on Aug 24, 2009 16:48:06 GMT -5
Personally, I wouldnt mind if Bale didnt come back. [/color][/quote]Ditto
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 24, 2009 19:51:07 GMT -5
First off, Bale's the best Batman we've had. Have you seen Clooney? As for your "news": *facepalm* Actually, both your statements are personal opinion and not fact. Therefore neither of you are right or wrong, so you cant really correct someone on this type of statement.
Personally, I wouldnt mind if Bale didnt come back.I'll give you the first comment, but that second one really doesn't have merit.
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Post by harleyquinn84 on Aug 24, 2009 20:32:58 GMT -5
Thanks Batlaw for understand that the view askew batman 3 was just a joke.
All Star Batman, Yes I have seen Clooney's Batman not the best but better than Bale. For Three Reasons: 1. Clooney made a better Bruce Wayne 2. Clooney didn't have to have his voice digitaly lowered for the Film 3. The jaw line.
The Clooney Movie was a total joke and a step backward into the campy batman. But I would rather watch that any day over Bale in the last two travesties they dare call Batman movies. And by travesties I litterally mean a literary or artistic composition so inferior in quality as to be merely a grotesque imitation of its model.
Bale is far too small for the role, he is a sissy. Unlike Micheal Keaton, who yes is small was able to make me forget that by his larger than life presents. It makes me laugh when Bale tries to growl/yell in the movies and makes me want to offer him a cough drop. And for the record Batman does not have to yell to get his point acrossed. Bale is just not believable as either Batman or Bruce Wayne. So he is really not needed for anyother Batman movies.
But the best Batman is Kevin Conroy.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 24, 2009 21:46:08 GMT -5
Thanks Batlaw for understand that the view askew batman 3 was just a joke. All Star Batman, Yes I have seen Clooney's Batman not the best but better than Bale. For Three Reasons: 1. Clooney made a better Bruce Wayne 2. Clooney didn't have to have his voice digitaly lowered for the Film 3. The jaw line. The Clooney Movie was a total joke and a step backward into the campy batman. But I would rather watch that any day over Bale in the last two travesties they dare call Batman movies. And by travesties I litterally mean a literary or artistic composition so inferior in quality as to be merely a grotesque imitation of its model. Bale is far too small for the role, he is a sissy. Unlike Micheal Keaton, who yes is small was able to make me forget that by his larger than life presents. It makes me laugh when Bale tries to growl/yell in the movies and makes me want to offer him a cough drop. And for the record Batman does not have to yell to get his point acrossed. Bale is just not believable as either Batman or Bruce Wayne. So he is really not needed for anyother Batman movies. But the best Batman is Kevin Conroy. Do you have a source that says Bale had his voice lowered? I'm not one of those who minded his growly voice. As Batman, he has to disguise his voice. I think he makes the best Batman because he can pull off both Bruce and Batman. Keaton may have been able to be Batman, but I couldn't believe him as Bruce Wayne. The only one I see who could do both was Val Kilmer. Kevin Conroy is without a doubt the best voice for Batman though.
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Post by harleyquinn84 on Aug 24, 2009 22:41:25 GMT -5
I don't recall the first place I read that they lowered Bale's voice but If you google it its all over the place. I read it before the last movie even came out.
I don't mind Bale as an actor, but to me he is no batman. I agree Keaton wasn't the Best Bruce Wayne. But Bale as Burce Wayne just makes me want to slap him. It doesn't help that I think both of those movies suck.
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 25, 2009 1:45:56 GMT -5
i have to jump in with here and agree with Harley. Bale is terrible as Batman and Clooney was great as Bruce Wayne. see Bale didnt do the proper research. i dont know about any of the voice lowering and whatnot, but Bale did things backwards. the "fake" voice is supposed to be used by Bruce Wayne and be in a higher tone. when he's Batman its his normal voice, not some weird raspy tone. he doesnt look the part, he's too happy looking and there are much better ways to go with an actor to play Batman.
as for the third movie, personally i would prefer it had no Bale and no Nolan.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 25, 2009 7:02:28 GMT -5
i have to jump in with here and agree with Harley. Bale is terrible as Batman and Clooney was great as Bruce Wayne. see Bale didnt do the proper research. i dont know about any of the voice lowering and whatnot, but Bale did things backwards. the "fake" voice is supposed to be used by Bruce Wayne and be in a higher tone. when he's Batman its his normal voice, not some weird raspy tone. he doesnt look the part, he's too happy looking and there are much better ways to go with an actor to play Batman. as for the third movie, personally i would prefer it had no Bale and no Nolan. I can understand Bale, but why don't you want Nolan back?
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Post by lyricist on Aug 25, 2009 9:00:52 GMT -5
This discussion is dangerous.
I think most fans on here have a very strong emotional attachment to this character. Some like him blue and grey, some like him black, or grey and black. Some like Brave and the Bold, some live and die by BTAS.
Preferences have a lot to do with personal experiences in life. For instance, I suffer rather severely from a mood disorder. I think that has something to do with why I love Keaton's Batman. I love all the incarnations and I collect it all, but I will admit that I do sometimes cringe when I see him in blue and grey. If you look at this guy literally, there's no way he would dress in blue and grey. He wants to scare people. On the other hand, he's been blue and grey for most of his comic book career and I absolutely LOVE Jim Lee's art.
In my opinion, if you combine Keaton's sad, neurotic Batman with Bale's angry, obsessed Batman...you have a very realistic description of bipolar II disorder.
I don't know if there's a point to this or not, but I do see that many people here pick either light or dark...and for the most part, do not deviate from their decision. There's this tension between the two choices. Why? I don't know. Different personality types clashing I think - which is a very basic theme that is consistent in most of these characters.
Realistically...the guy is not normal. He is a tortured angry man who is spending his life trying to do the right thing.
The flip side of that is that this stuff should be fun.
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 25, 2009 10:06:00 GMT -5
i have to jump in with here and agree with Harley. Bale is terrible as Batman and Clooney was great as Bruce Wayne. see Bale didnt do the proper research. i dont know about any of the voice lowering and whatnot, but Bale did things backwards. the "fake" voice is supposed to be used by Bruce Wayne and be in a higher tone. when he's Batman its his normal voice, not some weird raspy tone. he doesnt look the part, he's too happy looking and there are much better ways to go with an actor to play Batman. as for the third movie, personally i would prefer it had no Bale and no Nolan. I can understand Bale, but why don't you want Nolan back? the changes he makes are too drastic and i just think that David Goyer by himself could do a much better job. what Goyer did with Blade is what should be happening with Batman, but Nolan holds that process back and kind of handcuffs Goyer's writing. i know i'm in the minority against Nolan, but thats just my opinion and feelings on the subject and i honestly think that the third movie could really benefit from not having Nolan attached to the film.
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Post by jlavaia on Aug 25, 2009 10:13:26 GMT -5
Preferences have a lot to do with personal experiences in life. For instance, I suffer rather severely from a mood disorder. I think that has something to do with why I love Keaton's Batman. I love all the incarnations and I collect it all, but I will admit that I do sometimes cringe when I see him in blue and grey. If you look at this guy literally, there's no way he would dress in blue and grey. He wants to scare people. On the other hand, he's been blue and grey for most of his comic book career and I absolutely LOVE Jim Lee's art. in all actuality, the blue/gray blends more with Gotham's landscape and at night its never really a black sky in a large city. the lights of the city make the sky look more of a dark blue, which is why those are the main colors that he has worn throughout his history. the blue & gray and black & gray suits help him to blend better into the shadows and blend when there are no shadows to hide his presence. he definitely would wear those colors, which is why he does wear those colors.
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Post by lyricist on Aug 25, 2009 13:26:33 GMT -5
What I meant was, if there was a real batman in NYC today (tonight rather) he would not dress in blue and grey. The muscles would always intimidate, especially to me, I'm tiny. But the imagery wouldn't have that much of an impact. Or else why use a bat? Why not just be Puppy Dog Man. How many blue bats have you seen? That's what I meant by realistic. Yes, I know the bat symbol on his chest would still be black, I'm speaking of the cape and cowl symbolism here.
I always thought they turned him blue and grey so he wouldn't look like a black blotch on comic paper. Either that, or to lighten things up after the Depression. I don't know. You guys would know better. I'm all about the imagery, it's a big part of what I do and where I came from. I'm an "agent" of psychology.
Plus I like bats.
And I'm sorry for appearing "so serious."
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Post by harleyquinn84 on Aug 25, 2009 20:24:14 GMT -5
I agree with the no Nolan part too!!!! If it's going to go this far I'll say it Nolan ruined the joker. Heath Ledger in that movie was not the Joker and I blame the director for that. The Joker wasn't funny and why did he have to look like he came straight out of a mudvayne video. Those movies don't even feel like Batman to me. Take the first one what director/writer thinks it a good idea to have a movie called Batman Begins (key word Batman) and you don't even see Batman until an hour and 10 mintues (I watched the counter on my dvd player) into the film. sorry about the rant.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 25, 2009 21:17:34 GMT -5
I agree with the no Nolan part too!!!! If it's going to go this far I'll say it Nolan ruined the joker. Heath Ledger in that movie was not the Joker and I blame the director for that. The Joker wasn't funny and why did he have to look like he came straight out of a mudvayne video. Those movies don't even feel like Batman to me. Take the first one what director/writer thinks it a good idea to have a movie called Batman Begins (key word Batman) and you don't even see Batman until an hour and 10 mintues (I watched the counter on my dvd player) into the film. sorry about the rant. Did you not like the Joker just because he wore make-up? That didn't take away from his character at all. He was still the homicidal clown we all love, and it was the best interpretation of the character created. Would you have rather they just put Batman in their with no explanation whatsoever? Every superhero needs an origin story. Batman's no different.
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