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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 8, 2005 20:05:58 GMT -5
www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?id=31955Batman Sequel Proceeds Batman Begins producer Charles Roven told SCI FI Wire that the cast is signed on for a sequel, the script is in the works, new cast members are being discussed and the only delay is an OK by director Christopher Nolan. "We all hope there is going to be another one," Roven said in an interview for the upcoming Terry Gilliam film The Brothers Grimm, which he also produced. "We're waiting for Chris Nolan to declare himself. We will do it after he does that." Batman Begins star Christian Bale has signed on to reprise the role of the seething and dark Bruce Wayne/Batman, as have Michael Caine as the butler Alfred, Katie Holmes as the love interest Rachel Dawes and Gary Oldman as police detective Jim Gordon, Roven confirmed. But Roven added that it's too early to talk about new cast members. He discounted rumors that The Daily Show's Steve Carrell is up for the role of the Joker. Roven is working with Carrell on the big-screen version of the TV spy comedy series Get Smart and said it's way too early to talk about new cast members for the as-yet-untitled next Batman film. Roven said that it would be possible to proceed with another Batman movie without Nolan, but added that he would prefer Nolan to do another one. "The point is that the studio owns the franchise, and they can do without any of us," Roven said. "But it was a spectacular experience with Chris [Nolan], and he kept everyone involved and was very collaborative. So we hope it will happen again with him." Sounds cool to me. Also, according to BOF, Joker screentests are coming up and none of the actors signed are "big names." So that cancels out Sean Penn and Johnny Depp if that's true. In fact, I strongly suggest from Jett's clues that Lachy Hulme and Paul Bettany are two of the actors going up for it. I'm glad Rachel's coming back because my friends and I are sick of the James Bond-like tradition from the previous series in which not one girl stuck around. They had to make up excuses for Vicki in Batman Returns and Chase was never mentioned once in Batman Forever. Bringing back Rachel and further developing her character will continue to show audiences that this Batman series strives to be different (in a good way) from the previous films (don't get me wrong, here, I love the previous films). EDIT: Jett at BOF clarified this for me- just because Katie is "signed on" does not necessarily mean that she is definitely in the sequel. WB has the option of bringing her back or not.
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Post by Batman Prevails on Aug 9, 2005 18:58:45 GMT -5
I'm glad Rachel is back, she's a great character. She's ultimately linked to Bruce's past and present. Apart from that she's not the annoying damsel in distress character that screams throughout the entire movie.
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Post by Batdan on Aug 9, 2005 22:31:21 GMT -5
Man, I'm hoping this Paul Bettany business is true.
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 9, 2005 22:43:11 GMT -5
we have news about Joker. Watch for it this week.
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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 9, 2005 23:48:34 GMT -5
SWEEET!!!
I hero you for giving me something to look forward to.
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Post by Longbowhunter on Aug 10, 2005 1:36:48 GMT -5
I really hope Katie comes back...so the Joker can kill her right in front of Bruce! Lets face it folks-Mr. J's gotta kill someone and who better than the Bats childhood girlfriend.
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 10, 2005 2:45:52 GMT -5
I really hope Katie comes back...so the Joker can kill her right in front of Bruce! Lets face it folks-Mr. J's gotta kill someone and who better than the Bats childhood girlfriend. hmmm...since you put it that way...I'm all for it! I'll be cheering the entire time. ;D
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Post by Batman Prevails on Aug 10, 2005 3:12:11 GMT -5
I really hope Katie comes back...so the Joker can kill her right in front of Bruce! Lets face it folks-Mr. J's gotta kill someone and who better than the Bats childhood girlfriend. hmmm...since you put it that way...I'm all for it! I'll be cheering the entire time. ;D you guys are vile. This guy has already lost his parents, give him a break.
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 10, 2005 3:44:16 GMT -5
hmmm...since you put it that way...I'm all for it! I'll be cheering the entire time. ;D you guys are vile. This guy has already lost his parents, give him a break. yep..but WB lost all their PR time for Begins to her and Tom's "relationship". Now THAT'S vile.
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Post by jasontodd2 on Aug 10, 2005 19:38:51 GMT -5
So it's official...a Batman sequal has been given the green light! this is great news. Adding new characters are always a plus but they have to stick with the formula of what worked with the first film and I think it is crucial that Christopher Nolan sign on to direct the second and possibly third film.
I think that the second film will do alot better than the first one because word of mouth has gotten around that this isn't the Joel Shumacher Batman, so I look for a huge turnout for the second film, especially if The Joker is the featured villian. And speaking of The Joker does anybody know if Crispin Glover is still in the mix? And a name that I think /\/\att threw out there once Denis Leary? I watch Rescue Me every week and I think Leary could pull off a great Joker!
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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 10, 2005 19:52:19 GMT -5
Judging from Jett's clue below, I don't think Crispin Glover is in the running. "In my humble opinion, I believe Mr. Glover is nothing more than a fanboy choice… " www.batman-on-film.com/scattershooting_joker.htmlIf Glover was really in the running, I would think that Jett would say something different. He doesn't seem to like Glover, so maybe something like, "I can't see Glover as Joker, but if he's got the ability that I haven't seen yet...by all means, cast him." Also, according to Jett's sources, the only rumored actors who are going in for the screen test are Lachy Hulme and Paul Bettany. As for Rachel...I'd only support the idea of killing her off if it takes place in the middle or end of the movie. Do it in the beginning and it would be a waste of a character as well as a major change from the comics in which Batman's primary reason for hunting down Joker would be because the guy killed his ex. Making the Batman-Joker conflict so unbelievably personal and convenient from the beginning is not a change that would sit well with me. A lot of people complain how untrue to the comics the first film was by making the Joker the killer of Bruce's parents. To be honest, I'd rather have that because at least in that film, Batman hated Joker before realizing who the guy really was. What I think we should remember is: Batman's primary reason for hating Joker and wanting to track him down is because Joker kills innocent people. He is the epitome of evil in Gotham City. He obtains glee and pleasure by terrorizing the innocent. He is the complete chaotic opposite of Batman. He opposes everything Batman stands for. That was the primary reason for the Batman-Joker conflict from 1940 up until the late '80's when Joker got a little more personal, paralyzed Barbara Gordon, tried to drive Commissioner Gordon insane, and killed Robin. Does he need to kill anybody close to Batman in the next film? Nope. Not necessary at all. Would killing Rachel in the middle of the movie-when the Batman-Joker conflict is already established-bother me in the least? Nope.
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Post by J-Man on Aug 10, 2005 19:56:44 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]It's nice to see this is officially confirmed. While it's a bit odd that they kept Katie Holmes for the sequel, I'm sure they had a good reason, whether she's killed off or not.
In other cast speculation, I don't think Crispin Glover is out of the running yet. Or at least I hope he isn't.[/shadow]
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Post by ProfessorHStrange on Aug 10, 2005 21:47:41 GMT -5
It is interesting to see that Katie Holmes is back. I do think that bettany and Hulme are the front runners. It will be interesting to see.
ProfessorH!
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Post by DarknessFalls on Aug 11, 2005 3:07:35 GMT -5
Wow, Katie Holmes will be back for the sequel? That's kinda odd after somebody at WB officially announced that they needed a stronger actress. I hope that they are not gonna let the Joker kills her in the movie and have fans laugh about it, that just plain creepy and mean. Judging by the fact that she had signed for another film, means she really into making the film, and I respect anyone who is involved in a Batman movie [Yes, even Clooney]. Come on, the girl needs more possibilities in the future. It's not her fault, she gotta have a life too.
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Post by Batman Prevails on Aug 11, 2005 4:48:30 GMT -5
[ yep..but WB lost all their PR time for Begins to her and Tom's "relationship". Now THAT'S vile. Actually that's untrue, most media outlets only allocate a certain amount of movie coverage. They will prioritize gossip stories no matter how spectacular a blockbuster might be. If anything, Batman Begins gained more exposure because of the TomKat relationship since it has always been mentioned in the byline. If there wasn't a TomKat the media would have focussed on Lindsay's lack of appetite or the two Parises but they would not have given Begins any extra exposure. The general public favors juicy gossip over another superhero flick.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 11, 2005 13:49:11 GMT -5
I really hope Katie comes back...so the Joker can kill her right in front of Bruce! Lets face it folks-Mr. J's gotta kill someone and who better than the Bats childhood girlfriend. Yup I said sometime ago the only way I wanted to see "Carboard Kate"back was to be killed by the Joker.they need something huge to fan the flames of Batman and Jokers hatred for one another(lets face it the Joker is Bats main nemesis hands down-there is no competition here)and something like Rachael getting blown away by the Harlequin of Hate makes good sense. on the Holmes thing... Im disgusted she is back after her pre BB antics-her behaviour on Irish and British TV alone should have got her the boot-but Ill get over it
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Post by DarknessFalls on Aug 12, 2005 2:31:24 GMT -5
[ yep..but WB lost all their PR time for Begins to her and Tom's "relationship". Now THAT'S vile. If anything, Batman Begins gained more exposure because of the TomKat relationship since it has always been mentioned in the byline. That's true.
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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 12, 2005 17:56:54 GMT -5
Alright, I have to fix something up here that Jett at BOF has been repeatedly clarifying for me...
WB has the option of bringing back Katie Holmes. Being signed on does not necessarily mean that she's definitely going to be in the sequel. So this falsifies the old rumor that WB didn't want Katie Holmes to return because of TomKat publicity, but it doesn't necessarily confirm that she will be back.
remember: George Clooney was signed on to do more than one Batman film. Obviously....he hasn't donned cape and cowl since 1997.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 13, 2005 3:23:51 GMT -5
Alright, I have to fix something up here that Jett at BOF has been repeatedly clarifying for me... WB has the option of bringing back Katie Holmes. Being signed on does not necessarily mean that she's definitely going to be in the sequel. So this falsifies the old rumor that WB didn't want Katie Holmes to return because of TomKat publicity, but it doesn't necessarily confirm that she will be back. remember: George Clooney was signed on to do more than one Batman film. Obviously....he hasn't donned cape and cowl since 1997. I see-thanks man I hero you for clearing the haze of misinformation surrounding "Carboard Kate"
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Post by jasontodd2 on Aug 13, 2005 14:21:38 GMT -5
Alright, I have to fix something up here that Jett at BOF has been repeatedly clarifying for me... WB has the option of bringing back Katie Holmes. Being signed on does not necessarily mean that she's definitely going to be in the sequel. So this falsifies the old rumor that WB didn't want Katie Holmes to return because of TomKat publicity, but it doesn't necessarily confirm that she will be back. remember: George Clooney was signed on to do more than one Batman film. Obviously....he hasn't donned cape and cowl since 1997. This is the best news coming out of this right now. I really hope that Katie Holmes doesn't come back.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 13, 2005 14:48:50 GMT -5
I dont think we have anything to fear man-she probably wouldnt do a sequel anyway
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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 13, 2005 15:41:54 GMT -5
From reading her interviews, I think she is willing to do a sequel "if they let [her]." It mainly depends on what Nolan and Goyer have in mind for the character.
EDIT- Btw, JOKERFC, thank you for the hero.
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Post by Robin on Aug 13, 2005 17:16:30 GMT -5
I'm so excited for a sequel! I can't wait to hear whos playing Joker.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 13, 2005 17:53:09 GMT -5
I'm so excited for a sequel! I can't wait to hear whos playing Joker. Me too man- me Too
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Post by The Demons Head on Aug 13, 2005 21:03:52 GMT -5
I'm so excited for a sequel! I can't wait to hear whos playing Joker. Me too man- me Too I know that I've said/ posted this before, but, if you haven't taken a look/ seen this www.sneakpeektv.com/id300.html guy yet, then you should...His image scares/ startles me every time I see it...That, and he has the Killing Joke look down...
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 14, 2005 4:31:33 GMT -5
Yeah I think Cassel is a contender for sure
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Post by vinylrabbit on Aug 14, 2005 13:23:39 GMT -5
[glow=HotPink,2,300]I don't mind Katie Holmes but please! Don't make her the interest again. She should just be a cop friend. Maybe they could make her bisexual and Renee Montoya could be partner? Lol I just made that up.
She should only be a cop friend or be killed off by Harley Quinn *crosses fingers that they bring Harely in for cameo* to prove her loyalty to the Joker. Or again, I'd say let Joker kill her right in front of Bruce while their at an opera or SOMETHING. But please dont make her the love interest.
I'm all for bring Ms. Selina Kyle in. And Nolan said he'd like to bring her eventually. Maybe not right away as Catwoman, but at least as a hooker turned socialite turned Bruce's love interest.[/glow]
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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 14, 2005 13:32:50 GMT -5
If she returns, I don't think Nolan and Goyer will be foolish enough to turn her into a love interest again after she basically rejected him at the end of the first film. I think she'd be more of a person who gives Bruce information. I can imagine a couple emotionally awkward moments here and there, but mostly Rachel giving Bruce information in private since only she knows that he's Batman.
As for Vincent Cassel, my problem is that he's got a pretty thick French accent. I'd have to hear his attempt at an American accent in Blueberry/Renegade. I'm not sure if I want the new Joker to have such an obvious ethnicity based on his voice. Otherwise he can act crazy and he's even got some fighting skills. Could be interesting if he can get the voice down.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 14, 2005 14:08:52 GMT -5
cassels a good actor-he could nail the voice-plus he can do spur of the moment intensity very well-something crucial IMO for the ace of knaves
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Post by BatmAngelus on Aug 14, 2005 14:18:56 GMT -5
Yeah, that's why I'm willing to give him a chance. I'd still prefer other actors that I'm more confident about.
If he was a terrible actor with a great smile, I wouldn't even think about it. But he's decent. I'm just not sure about the voice.
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