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Post by dhunter333 on Jan 7, 2007 7:21:22 GMT -5
how come we havent seen two face or scarecrow in the batman yet?
i'm sure two face hasnt been there...pretty sure scarecrow hasnt
let me know, thanks
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 7, 2007 12:59:56 GMT -5
Because their rights are being utilized by and for the film franchise.
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Post by arkhaminmate on Jan 7, 2007 14:08:32 GMT -5
They won't be in TB because of "The Dreaded Bat Embargo" which means that any character other than Batman can be used in a tv or film property only once, & can only be in 1 media form
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 7, 2007 14:18:49 GMT -5
Basically yeah, the "Embargo" as it's known effected those characters from appearing on The Batman then and now, But the Embargo itself isn't that simple, defined or absolute.
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Post by Blackgate on Jan 7, 2007 18:07:15 GMT -5
Two face could still possibly appear in The Batman, if they do a season 5 (which we havent even had a confirmation of), beacuse he is a popular charecter with a good 2 episode storyline great for a season openor or finale. WB will basically do anything to get money so if they think putting two face into both mediums will get them money, they will. Unfortunatly movies always take a front seat to animation. As for scarecrow, i dont think we will ever see him.
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Post by dhunter333 on Jan 7, 2007 19:13:49 GMT -5
you mean because they are in the current film franchise? (batman begins, the dark knight) with two face and such? scarecrow? is that why ras al ghul isnt in the batman? (if he is, sorry, i am only as far as the dvd's are) then how is the joker in there?
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 7, 2007 19:19:59 GMT -5
you mean because they are in the current film franchise? (batman begins, the dark knight) with two face and such? scarecrow? is that why ras al ghul isnt in the batman? (if he is, sorry, i am only as far as the dvd's are) then how is the joker in there? exactly
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Post by Blackgate on Jan 7, 2007 19:20:33 GMT -5
you mean because they are in the current film franchise? (batman begins, the dark knight) with two face and such? scarecrow? is that why ras al ghul isnt in the batman? (if he is, sorry, i am only as far as the dvd's are) then how is the joker in there?
well thats one of those "exeptions". The Embargo is a very complicated thing and could be overlooked for certain thing. Plus, The Joker started on The Batman before BB even came out, so he is a little different.
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 7, 2007 22:59:47 GMT -5
The embargo is very complex and is dealt with on a character by character basis, truly.
Not to mention, you cannot, and I mean cannot have Batman w/o the Joker. DC wouldn't even allow it! lol.
hopefully the politics that the suits put us through will lighten in the coming years, but I wouldn't count on it! lol
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 8, 2007 1:13:20 GMT -5
Really the embargo is less of an annoyance now simply because less DC franchise are being utilized. When Teen Titans and Justice League were on, the terms were even more strict.
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Post by ayenlou on Jan 12, 2007 1:24:34 GMT -5
Why have the bat embargo in the first place? Can't we all share batman?
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Post by Christopher Jones on Jan 12, 2007 1:54:44 GMT -5
I was never sure how much the principle concern of the Bat-embargo was fear of causing confusion in the market place by having conflicting versions of the characters out there simultaneously (between The Batman, Justice League, and Teen Titans), rights issues with the toys and merchandise based on the shows and the individual characters associated with them, or simply wanting to limit the characters appearances for fear of over-exposing them. Probably some combination of the three.
I think the ban on Two-Face, Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul had more to do with Batman Begins than any of the other animation projects, but given that we're at least two movies away from Two-face I don't understand that logic either.
For the record, I would LOVE to be able to draw Two-Face or Scarecrow in The Batman Strikes...
Chris
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 12, 2007 2:16:13 GMT -5
...and let me tell you, Chris draws a MEAN Two-Face!
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Post by Green Ghost on Jan 13, 2007 16:14:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember the cool Two-Face pic he gave you to your birthday There aren't any Batman villains in the Justice League: Heroes game, is it because of the Bat Emargo too? But why only Batman? Because he has the best villains? There isn't anything like this for Superman or any other charakter...
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Post by The Dark Knight on Jan 13, 2007 19:46:38 GMT -5
Also we dont see many of Batman's villains in JLU, wonder if its just story-wise, but yeah, I really dont like the bat embargo just because it cuts down on different medias. I think a Scarecrow episode for TB would have been great, considering the design and their always great voice casting. Is the Two-Face pic posted somewhere on the site?
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 13, 2007 20:17:19 GMT -5
Is the Two-Face pic posted somewhere on the site? Yeah, I'd like to see that.
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 13, 2007 22:23:15 GMT -5
Is the Two-Face pic posted somewhere on the site? Yeah, I'd like to see that. I've got a copy of it on my flash drive..I'll post it up after a bit tonight. Chris actually did it as an Xmas gift in 2004. Its still my favorite Batman item! I adore it.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 14, 2007 14:18:15 GMT -5
Here it is! Now I definately want Two-Face on The Batman.
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Post by wetstereorebel on Jan 14, 2007 15:48:55 GMT -5
That's freaking awesome!
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 14, 2007 20:36:13 GMT -5
That Two-Face pic looks incredible. If only they could have him...
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Post by DareBat on Feb 4, 2007 2:22:01 GMT -5
That is a very cool picture! It's too bad that some characters can't be used in the show. Is this Embargo written out in ink somewhere?
I guess since they could use Joker, they're using him to the max. I mean... Golly! Y'know how many episodes he has?!
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