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Post by blinker on Mar 4, 2006 2:42:32 GMT -5
Its not just that. Its the term "delaying" on their books, not just AS but others like move to another week or month, etc. I setup my money situation to buy comics for the week. My amount there is listed, I know how much to spend so I won't worry. But, when DC decides to delay certain books to, lets say, the next week or two. My plan gets shot.
Sure that week, by losing couple issues, gets the price lowered. But its raises the price of that week those book were added on. Now, somethign that would 12 dollars lets say, is now 15-17, to even 20 dollars.
I hate it when they delay. I wish they wouldn't delay. I know delaying AS 4-5 is for Miller to rewrite his story for the better. But if he keeps on doing this, then the time when Lee and Miller dont feel like working on it anymore will be quicker than when we thought it would be.
He should only delay once on one book, after that no more. DC should slam their foot down and say "we're releasing it, go on and improve your story beyond this issue(s)."
Why they haven't done that, I don't know. But thats why.
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 6, 2006 18:42:53 GMT -5
We all loved the new dark and gritty Batman from DKR and Year One, but when Miller goes a step further like Batman attacking the GCPD in All Star or killing Dick in DKSA, it's "OH, YOU'VE GONE TO FAR MILLER!" Not for me and some other members here. No one is going to comment on this? Well it is the truth. If Miller even goes just one step over the line with Batman, it is always "OH, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!"
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 10, 2006 13:07:02 GMT -5
FROM TOYFARE#103: Move over Adam West and Burt Ward! Our new favorite dynamic dou is Jim Lee and Frank Miller, writer and artist of All Star Batman and Robin, and DC Direct has already turned the book's stars into a highquality statue! Based on the cover to Wizard#168, this statue places the two on a rooftop ledge with their capes blowing in the wind. Why is Batman's cape so freaking huge? Because he's the goddamn Batman! Any All Star fans gonna get this? Now have it on your desktop:
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Post by vishman007 on Mar 13, 2006 19:24:07 GMT -5
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 13, 2006 20:11:41 GMT -5
So we already have Batgirl now? At least this story is finally ending.
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Post by vishman007 on Mar 14, 2006 20:05:18 GMT -5
I thought the story was going to run longer than 6 issues
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 14, 2006 20:11:26 GMT -5
I thought the story was going to run longer than 6 issues The current story is running for 6 issues. The title itself is ongoing.
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Post by HUSH on Mar 14, 2006 22:11:41 GMT -5
The DC Comics website has a very puzzling description of #6: "To show the world that super-heroes police their own, Superman has assembled a "Justice League of America." Can the Earth's most powerful heroes rescue the kidnapped Dick Grayson and save Gotham from the clutches of a Dark Knight who has obviously gone mad?" I thought Miller wanted Batman to be the protagonist of this story, so why does this sound like he's intentionally trying to have Batman off his rocker? Regardless of how Batman's been acting in this book, I didn't think he was going to end up as the villain! Hopefully this description is inaccurate. If not, I'll be very confused indeed...
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 14, 2006 22:40:17 GMT -5
The DC Comics website has a very puzzling description of #6: "To show the world that super-heroes police their own, Superman has assembled a "Justice League of America." Can the Earth's most powerful heroes rescue the kidnapped Dick Grayson and save Gotham from the clutches of a Dark Knight who has obviously gone mad?" I thought Miller wanted Batman to be the protagonist of this story, so why does this sound like he's intentionally trying to have Batman off his rocker? Regardless of how Batman's been acting in this book, I didn't think he was going to end up as the villain! Hopefully this description is inaccurate. If not, I'll be very confused indeed... Okay, that is confusing. I'm starting to think Miller really is taking this in the wrong direction. Having Batman as a mad man was great, but having the JLA against him? Maybe I was wrong. If Miller does go this way, we'll all have a problem here.
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Post by HUSH on Mar 15, 2006 6:35:35 GMT -5
Okay, that is confusing. I'm starting to think Miller really is taking this in the wrong direction. Having Batman as a mad man was great, but having the JLA against him? Maybe I was wrong. If Miller does go this way, we'll all have a problem here. Exactly what I was thinking.....I guess time will tell.
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Post by blinker on Mar 15, 2006 15:54:42 GMT -5
This sounds like this is a prequel to DKR, doesn't it?
Question: you know how All Star Superman brings back or tributes old Silver Age elements of Superman, and not this story but Batman and the Monster Men and soon Mad Monk which tributes the first two years of Batman on the golden age, does it seem like MonsterMen/Mad Monk IS All Star Batman more than this?
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 15, 2006 18:30:02 GMT -5
One of these will probably be my reaction after the story ends:
"Good story. Thank god we finally got it over."
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"Miller ****ed up big time.
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Post by wayneson on Mar 15, 2006 21:38:26 GMT -5
This sounds like this is a prequel to DKR, doesn't it? Question: you know how All Star Superman brings back or tributes old Silver Age elements of Superman, and not this story but Batman and the Monster Men and soon Mad Monk which tributes the first two years of Batman on the golden age, does it seem like MonsterMen/Mad Monk IS All Star Batman more than this? Yep. ;D
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Post by wayneson on Mar 15, 2006 21:47:39 GMT -5
The DC Comics website has a very puzzling description of #6: "To show the world that super-heroes police their own, Superman has assembled a "Justice League of America." Can the Earth's most powerful heroes rescue the kidnapped Dick Grayson and save Gotham from the clutches of a Dark Knight who has obviously gone mad?" I thought Miller wanted Batman to be the protagonist of this story, so why does this sound like he's intentionally trying to have Batman off his rocker? Regardless of how Batman's been acting in this book, I didn't think he was going to end up as the villain! Hopefully this description is inaccurate. If not, I'll be very confused indeed... Okay, that is confusing. I'm starting to think Miller really is taking this in the wrong direction. Having Batman as a mad man was great, but having the JLA against him? Maybe I was wrong. If Miller does go this way, we'll all have a problem here. Ahh...it's just a story. He can take it anywhere he wants. It doesn't mean anything to the history of the character in my view. The artwork is superb, and if the story goes somewhere that is shocking or confusing then I'll just simply shrug and think "wow, Miller went WAY out there this time." There's always a new approach around the corner - not every story has to stay within the boundaries of what has been done before. I'm happy just going along for the ride, wherever it goes.
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 15, 2006 21:53:54 GMT -5
Okay, that is confusing. I'm starting to think Miller really is taking this in the wrong direction. Having Batman as a mad man was great, but having the JLA against him? Maybe I was wrong. If Miller does go this way, we'll all have a problem here. Ahh...it's just a story. He can take it anywhere he wants. It doesn't mean anything to the history of the character in my view. The artwork is superb, and if the story goes somewhere that is shocking or confusing then I'll just simply shrug and think "wow, Miller went WAY out there this time." There's always a new approach around the corner - not every story has to stay within the boundaries of what has been done before. I'm happy just going along for the ride, wherever it goes. Yeah, but having the JLA going after Batman just for recruiting some punk kid into his mission? Miller better make this right, because having the Bat and the Bird as vigilantes wanted by the law, and Gordon's nowhere to help them will lead to big trouble.
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Post by wayneson on Mar 15, 2006 22:03:41 GMT -5
Ahh...it's just a story. He can take it anywhere he wants. It doesn't mean anything to the history of the character in my view. The artwork is superb, and if the story goes somewhere that is shocking or confusing then I'll just simply shrug and think "wow, Miller went WAY out there this time." There's always a new approach around the corner - not every story has to stay within the boundaries of what has been done before. I'm happy just going along for the ride, wherever it goes. Yeah, but having the JLA going after Batman just for recruiting some punk kid into his mission? Miller better make this right, because having the Bat and the Bird as vigilantes wanted by the law, and Gordon's nowhere to help them will lead to big trouble. I sincerely hope so. After 40 years of reading Batman comics, big trouble sounds fantastic! ;D
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 15, 2006 22:20:20 GMT -5
Doesn't Superman know Bruce is Batman? Wouldn't that make it easy for the cops to get Batman? Think about that.
I'm going out on the limb here for a minute. Even though I support Frank Miller's dark and gritty stories, I'm starting to think that with the issue 6 preview, that this is going in the wrong direction. Wasn't the main point of this having Batman recruit Dick and finding out who killed his parents? Now all of a sudden we get Black Canary, Superman, and the whole JLA involved? I thought this was going to be Batman and Robin only. Just the Dynamic Duo in their own stories, like the good ol days. And now it's looking like Batman's the villain, Dick's the hostage, and the JLA are the real heroes. All Star is supposed to be DC's Ultimate line, but it's looking like a younger version of DKR. I'll support Miller and Lee threw this, but this better end the right way, or they may just have to pack it in, go home, and let Neal Adams and the new writer just take it from there.
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Post by reideen1313 on Mar 15, 2006 22:40:44 GMT -5
Wasn't the main point of this having Batman recruit Dick and finding out who killed his parents? Now all of a sudden we get Black Canary, Superman, and the whole JLA involved? I thought this was going to be Batman and Robin only. Just the Dynamic Duo in their own stories, like the good ol days. And now it's looking like Batman's the villain, Dick's the hostage, and the JLA are the real heroes. Hmm... I've always known that Black Canary and the JLA were going to be in AB&R... ?? I'm pretty sure there were preview sketches of Canary at least floating around here somewhere. Maybe that's my fault for not describing this book as accurately as I could have before it came out. Or, maybe I did and you missed that post. In either case, sorry.
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 15, 2006 23:14:54 GMT -5
Wasn't the main point of this having Batman recruit Dick and finding out who killed his parents? Now all of a sudden we get Black Canary, Superman, and the whole JLA involved? I thought this was going to be Batman and Robin only. Just the Dynamic Duo in their own stories, like the good ol days. And now it's looking like Batman's the villain, Dick's the hostage, and the JLA are the real heroes. Hmm... I've always known that Black Canary and the JLA were going to be in AB&R... ?? I'm pretty sure there were preview sketches of Canary at least floating around here somewhere. Maybe that's my fault for not describing this book as accurately as I could have before it came out. Or, maybe I did and you missed that post. In either case, sorry. It could either way. I didn't join LoG until around the time it came out so, I didn't know what to expect. All I knew is that it was a new Batman and Robin. That's it.
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 20, 2006 18:42:56 GMT -5
You know, I had my doubts about this JLA vs. Batman thing, put what am I worried about? Batman's gonna kick all of their asses!
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Post by blinker on Apr 4, 2006 13:29:24 GMT -5
ALL STAR SUPERMAN #3
PLOT: For 24 hours, Lois Lane has Superman’s powers. And with the costume, she’s Superwoman. After fighting a monster, Biblical hero Samson and the Greek Hero Hercules come and sweep Lois off her feet.
REVIEW: While only in one issue (as far as we know), Lois Lane as Superwoman happens to be a great idea. And a nice homage to the Silver Age Superman comics. I love strong women and her costume gives her a Super-version of Wonder Woman’s costume.
However, one things that kinda bugs me is that Lois still thinks Superman is lying and that he isn’t Clark. On one hand; I believe this is similar to Spider-Man where as he revealed himself to Black Cat, she screamed for him to put the mask on as she thinks Peter lives a dull life, and she cannot see that they’re the same man. It can be just like that in here. But on the other hand; Black Cat didn’t deny it. Lois is. Why is that? Now I’m wondering how Superman or Clark is gonna finally convince her he’s is who he is.
One of the highlights was how much this issue makes people go back to the ‘50s. In a issue to Action Comics, Samson and Hercules swept Lois and Lana off their feet as Superman watched. While this has happened before, you don’t need to know it. Another thing is that its not the first time Lois got super-powers (Superman’s Girlfriend: Lois Lane, anyone?) but Morrison puts it in a realistic view: At first I thought it was the costume was going to be the source of where Lois gets the powers. It turned out to be a definition of potent potable. Upon drinking, Lois has his powers for ONE DAY. That makes it a stronger and resonant way.
What happened in Issue 1, brought back in Issue 2, is now…….said again here in 3. Samson brings Superman a paper from the future that says “SUPERMAN’S DEAD”. This does two things: first off, that newspaper is also from the big stunt of Death and Life of Superman. Second: it provides us, story-wise, that his death is gonna happen one way or another and when it does, how he, Lois, and/or everybody else’s reaction and…action will be up in the air.
Overall, this was a great issue for this title. While some may feel it ain't great, just good. I feel it was great in the feeling I had when I was reading it.
RATING: 9/10
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Post by HUSH on Apr 6, 2006 0:51:15 GMT -5
Hey, all. I've been gone a few days, but now I'm back. Anyway, about All-Star Superman. I really love this series. Since DC has been so dark lately(still not a bad thing, necessarily), it is really refreshing for me to have such fun reading a comic. That's right- All-Star Superman is really fun to read. Grant Morrison finds a way to bring back all the whimsicality and creativity of the Silver Age, but without making it seem in any way corny. Superman himself is characterized magnificently, at his most heroic, but also his most human. I have no doubt in my mind that when I've read all of this series, it will be my favorite Superman story of all time. Issue #3 continued the story is another great, entertaining story. I think, though, that my favorite issue is still #2. I just loved seeing all of the oddities and mysteries in the Fortress of Solitude in #2. I'm looking forward to the next one!
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Post by Jack-Ups on Apr 6, 2006 5:35:52 GMT -5
Uhh waht so frank and jims run on all-star is coming to a end with issuie 6??? And if so will those issues of all star with miller and lee be published in a trade paperback???
Help guys!
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Post by All Star Batman on Apr 6, 2006 18:32:18 GMT -5
Uhh waht so frank and jims run on all-star is coming to a end with issuie 6??? And if so will those issues of all star with miller and lee be published in a trade paperback??? Help guys! The story Lee and Miller are working on now will end with #6. Their run will go on to #12. Possibly more.
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Post by Jack-Ups on Apr 7, 2006 3:33:19 GMT -5
Oh cool! Although Franks need for Jim to draw women in their underwear seems getting mighty obsessive!
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 20, 2006 16:56:51 GMT -5
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Post by blinker on Aug 28, 2006 16:14:19 GMT -5
ALL STAR SUPERMAN #5 PLOT: Lex Luthor has been sentenced to death by the courts. Clark Kent visits him in prison for an interview and follows him in his rather nice time in prison. As the interview goes, the Parasite breaks free and fights the guards. Now Clark has to save them while with Lex and not reveal to him who he is. REVIEW: I was very happy when I heard this was finally coming out. After all the anger I’ve having on the delays of the All Star books, I’m starting to get use to them. Not to say I’ve accepted the delays (I WILL NEVER DO THAT) but I’ve decided to not hold my breath, let’s say, on these books coming out a certain week until official confirmation. But anyway, back to the book. Now at first you might think from the cover that Clark was gonna go to jail. I thought that too and I was thinking if that would be the reason why he goes to Smallville in issue 6. It turns out that he goes to prison still as an interviewer, not a prisoner. Am’I mad? Not really. I doubt that would’ve happened. Lex Luthor seems to rather enjoy that he is gonna die. No escape plans seen, nothing about leaving, he accepts that he is going to die because for this reason: since Superman is dying because of him, he feels that he is done. I should point out though that there is an escape route that he has but because of Superman dying, he doesn’t want to use it. All Star’s Lex Luthor is whom more Silver Age is from. This Lex Luthor is the classic Lex Luthor. Always cares what he says to spread so everyone else can hear, always allowed to experiment, thinks himself as a king and tyrant, hell just think of Kevin Spacey’s Lex Luthor and you won’t be far off. Still, it doesn’t mean he is no evil. He still is. There are also scenes where you could laugh from him. Also, we’re introduced to a girl that Luthor knows that is seen talking Clark home away from the prison whom is where the escape route is located. He says her name is Nasthalthia, but she wants to be called Nasty, whom is 18 years old and wants to rule the world. She looks like a goth girl (well I should say she is) and, while this is a comic book, she looks nice. Overall, this was a nice issue. I have no problem with that. I should say though that while I’m really glad we finally have issue 5, I really, really can’t wait for issue 6. From the interview with Morrison, to the cover of Krypto and the possibility that since we’re in the Silver Age, we could get Superboy, I wanna see that. Let’s hope we get it soon. RATING: 8/10
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Post by All Star Batman on Oct 6, 2006 17:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by All Star Batman on Oct 10, 2006 19:39:10 GMT -5
Frank Miller has won the award for Best Comic Book Writer at the Scream Awards! As a fan of his book, I can say YAA! ;D
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Post by jasontodd2 on Oct 16, 2006 10:05:54 GMT -5
Frank Miller has won the award for Best Comic Book Writer at the Scream Awards! As a fan of his book, I can say YAA! ;D Very Cool, congrats Frank!
Sorry for not responding earlier in this thread after I had posted, I think I got upset with how they keep delaying issue after issue of this series. I am with you, All Star Batman is a great book, and as great as Miller/Lee are, I can't wait for there run to end and for the new crew to take over, this way here we can get All Star out once a month the way it should be instead of having it a guessing game.
Not sure how #6 is going to play out, but it has me very interested
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