crazyk
Gotham Tourist
Batman gets all the ladies
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Post by crazyk on Mar 25, 2008 18:29:27 GMT -5
Do I really have to start on issue *gulp* ONE!?
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 25, 2008 19:10:07 GMT -5
Do I really have to start on issue *gulp* ONE!? dont start on issue 1 as that features the Earth-2 Batman. pick up some trade paperbacks and go from there. if you want good early stuff i recommend the Showcase Presents: Batman vol. 1 and 2. vol. 3 will be out in July. a good jumping on point would be from where DC jumps to One Year Later. you'll probaly have a bunch of questions regardless from where you start reading. post them here and someone will answer them for you. Batman Confidential is a good series to read as the stories take place in the past. Detective Comics has mostly stand alone issues currently and Batman will also be going to that format after Final Crisis ends. |
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Post by Batlaw on Mar 25, 2008 20:16:09 GMT -5
I agree with Jlavaia. Thats some good recomends and advise. Odds are the Showcases wouldnt appeal or offer you much just yet. I may not think Batman Confidential is all that great or Necessary... but it is a title specifically for new Batman readers such as yourself.
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 26, 2008 16:20:02 GMT -5
If you want real classics, there's also the Batman Chronicles trades that are reprinting every Batman story. I think they're on Volume 5 now. And it wouldn't hurt to pick up Batman: Year One, which is Batman's post-crisis origin (and before jlavaia gets started on this again, some parts of the story have been changed in continuity over the years).
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 26, 2008 19:19:36 GMT -5
If you want real classics, there's also the Batman Chronicles trades that are reprinting every Batman story. I think they're on Volume 5 now. And it wouldn't hurt to pick up Batman: Year One, which is Batman's post-crisis origin (and before jlavaia gets started on this again, some parts of the story have been changed in continuity over the years). lol. i wont even get into it again, but if you read it disregard everything involving Catwoman as that was the stuff that really got changed. the Batman Chronicles trades are still on all the Earth-2 stuff though. they havent even made it to where the Showcases start, they're still in the Golden Age. those issues feature a different Batman. but i do agree, regardless of the fact that it's a different Batman, Year One is a great story and it's a good idea to check it out. |
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jokermatt
Legions of Gotham Police Officer
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Post by jokermatt on Mar 26, 2008 20:28:09 GMT -5
Start with this:
Batman Year One
Long halloween
Dark Victory
Robin and Batgirl Year One
(you'll have ? about what has happened between these)
Death in the Family
Lonely Place of Dying
Killing Joke
Knightfall/Quest/End
Cataclysm
No Mans Land
Hush
Face the Face
Dark Knight Returns
This is what I would pick up to start with.
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 26, 2008 23:49:28 GMT -5
Start with this: Batman Year One Long halloween Dark Victory Robin and Batgirl Year One (you'll have ? about what has happened between these) Death in the Family Lonely Place of Dying Killing Joke Knightfall/Quest/End Cataclysm No Mans Land Hush Face the Face Dark Knight Returns This is what I would pick up to start with. you wont need Robin: Year One unless you plan on reading alot of Nightwing and want background on his relationship with Shrike. Batgirl: Year One is great but it isnt really necessary. Lonely Place of Dying isnt a trade, neither is Knightquest, and i dont believe Cataclysm was collected either. Cataclysm also isnt necessary. Prodigal is missing from that list and shouldnt be. also TDKR is great but it's Elseworlds. if you want a good tale from early in Batman's career read Venom. NML is great, but the 5 Trades miss a few key issues and also miss the entire Road to No Man's Land, which was great as well, if you're going to read that i recommend going issue by issue. another key storyline missing from that list somehow is Bruce Wayne: Murderer? and Bruce Wayne: Fugitive, as well as War Games. those 3 are much more recent, but they are key when you get up to that point depending on how you are planning on reading. but for the most part that's a solid list with good reading. and if you're a fan of Nightwing i highly recommend reading the entire pre-OYL run. |
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Post by jasontodd2 on Mar 27, 2008 16:33:52 GMT -5
What about All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder?
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 27, 2008 16:37:29 GMT -5
What about All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder? same vein as Year One and TDKR. it's a different Batman. the same Batman from Y1 and TDKR, Earth-31 Batman. i also feel that All-Star Batman isnt worth reading, but to each his own. if you like other elseworlds stuff you might like it. |
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jokermatt
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Post by jokermatt on Mar 27, 2008 19:00:31 GMT -5
Forgot about the early Legends stuff. anything in the beginning of that run is great. The other things you mention I like but i know a lot of other people don't. I also forget what is and isn't in trades. i take everything issue by issue and later pick up the trades.
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 27, 2008 19:13:51 GMT -5
Start with this: Batman Year One Long halloween Dark Victory Robin and Batgirl Year One (you'll have ? about what has happened between these) Death in the Family Lonely Place of Dying Killing Joke Knightfall/Quest/End Cataclysm No Mans Land Hush Face the Face Dark Knight Returns This is what I would pick up to start with. you wont need Robin: Year One unless you plan on reading alot of Nightwing and want background on his relationship with Shrike. Batgirl: Year One is great but it isnt really necessary. Lonely Place of Dying isnt a trade, neither is Knightquest, and i dont believe Cataclysm was collected either. Cataclysm also isnt necessary. Prodigal is missing from that list and shouldnt be. also TDKR is great but it's Elseworlds. if you want a good tale from early in Batman's career read Venom. NML is great, but the 5 Trades miss a few key issues and also miss the entire Road to No Man's Land, which was great as well, if you're going to read that i recommend going issue by issue. another key storyline missing from that list somehow is Bruce Wayne: Murderer? and Bruce Wayne: Fugitive, as well as War Games. those 3 are much more recent, but they are key when you get up to that point depending on how you are planning on reading. but for the most part that's a solid list with good reading. and if you're a fan of Nightwing i highly recommend reading the entire pre-OYL run. A Lonely Place of Dying and Cataclysm are collected, but I think they're out of print, and so far there hasn't been any issues collected from Knightquest. |
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Post by Eric on Mar 27, 2008 19:48:15 GMT -5
You'll get all kinds of recommendations on this but mine will probably be the only one that will tell you to do this. Im an old school comic book collector, I hate TPB's, so I always recommend to poeple to go to your local comic store and go thru all the cheap boxes and pick up as many back issues of Batman and Detective Comics you can. Stories are stories, continuity, non continuity, blah blah blah. Theres an almost 70 year history to Batman comics, thats alot of books and alot of stories. If youre just interested in reading the comics and collecting them just buy as much as you can and enjoy them. If youre overseas or dont have a comic shop near you, theres always online.
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Post by electri on Mar 28, 2008 16:23:59 GMT -5
I love all star batman and robin ha ha lemonade
"damn you and your lemonade!"
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Post by acethebathound on Mar 30, 2008 14:37:17 GMT -5
I'd definitely start with Year One...
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Post by blackmask on Apr 3, 2008 16:27:33 GMT -5
Start with this: Batman Year One Long halloween Dark Victory Robin and Batgirl Year One (you'll have ? about what has happened between these) Death in the Family Lonely Place of Dying Killing Joke Knightfall/Quest/End Cataclysm No Mans Land Hush Face the Face Dark Knight Returns This is what I would pick up to start with. Don't over welm him!!!  |
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Post by blackmask on Apr 3, 2008 16:29:47 GMT -5
I like going to antique shops and buying the old ones from the sixties or seventies, any older and they get really expensive!
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crazyk
Gotham Tourist
Batman gets all the ladies
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Post by crazyk on Jul 25, 2008 1:09:10 GMT -5
Is the 1987 Year One and Batman: Year One identical or different? Like is the one not from 1987 a more..revised version?
I got my hands on Year One, Killing Joker, and Long Halloween by...other means as of now. I shall divulge in them after I finish my Punisher.
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Post by jlavaia on Jul 25, 2008 9:48:51 GMT -5
"Year One is the name of a non-canonical arc that ran for 4 issues in Batman. it's been collected numerous times into TPBs with all being exactly the same.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 25, 2008 13:08:28 GMT -5
"Year One is the name of a non-canonical arc that ran for 4 issues in Batman. it's been collected numerous times into TPBs with all being exactly the same. When Year One was written, it was supposed to be canon telling Batman's first year, but over the years, some ideas from it have changed, but the idea/story itself is still canon. And please, let's not get into this argument again. |
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Post by jlavaia on Jul 25, 2008 16:23:43 GMT -5
"Year One is the name of a non-canonical arc that ran for 4 issues in Batman. it's been collected numerous times into TPBs with all being exactly the same. When Year One was written, it was supposed to be canon telling Batman's first year, but over the years, some ideas from it have changed, but the idea/story itself is still canon. And please, let's not get into this argument again. lol. dont worry, i think we did the Year One debate to death. |
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Post by dynamitenick on Aug 18, 2008 1:26:37 GMT -5
If you want a good background on Batman's origin and past, these are the places to go:
Secret Origins TPB, Batman Begins TPB (both include a story by Denny O'Neil called "The Man Who Falls")
Shaman
Batman: Year One
The Long Halloween
Dark Victory
Blind Justice
A Death In The Family
A Lonely Place Of Dying
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Post by svengali1337 on Nov 4, 2008 15:13:23 GMT -5
I dont really read the "comic comic's" because theres not much there, they tend to be very short. I read the grapic novels, most of them are exellent, they are much longer and theres alot more substance in them.
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Post by Eric on Nov 4, 2008 18:11:56 GMT -5
I dont really read the "comic comic's" because theres not much there, they tend to be very short. I read the grapic novels, most of them are exellent, they are much longer and theres alot more substance in them. |
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Post by jlavaia on Nov 4, 2008 19:05:18 GMT -5
^ he means the comic section of the newspaper.
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Post by Eric on Nov 4, 2008 19:58:14 GMT -5
That doesnt make much sense. Of course you cannot compare a 4 -5 panel strip to a GN. Im not sure thats what he means though.
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Post by jlavaia on Nov 4, 2008 21:19:33 GMT -5
That doesnt make much sense. Of course you cannot compare a 4 -5 panel strip to a GN. Im not sure thats what he means though. you're right. it makes no sense. he has to mean something else. after re-reading his post i'm assuming he means regular single issues. that seems to fit. |
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 6, 2008 23:00:17 GMT -5
Yes i do.
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