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Post by Batlaw on Dec 18, 2005 17:25:16 GMT -5
Well, there are actually Nine episodes still left in this season (#5), and we have to even get even descriptions of the final five eps (let alone even a whisper regarding the shows renewal or cancellation). It doesnt even appear like we'll be seeing the next new Ep for months still? To the best of my understanding, all Eps should be completed, returned and ready to air at this point (or the vast majority anyway). Also, a merchandise/manufacturing rep on another site reports CN claims to "have enough new JLU Eps to last through Fall '06"? So that equates to airing about one episode a month? or several months before we see Anything, and then a couple here and there at best? Idiotic. The fact we havnt heard Anything either way regarding the show's fate (at least IMO), could likely be a good thing in the sense at least they are actually deliberating! Personally, no matter how crazy etc.I think it would be to kill the show, I think it is going to be canned before it's time. Not one single decision by CN regarding anything whatsoever to do w/ the show has been to it's benefit, but to it's destruction. Its always at least remotely possible JLU could be picked up by another network? (it's survived such changes more than once before), but it would be unlikely IMO this time around. For me, I think its time to just blank or get off the pot. Either support it or kill it, and if it's dead, just play out the remaining episodes in one or two night "blocks" and be done. If these remaining Eps are going to be the Series finale, why play around and pretend?
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Dec 18, 2005 21:53:24 GMT -5
You know, it is because of JLU that I even discovered legions of Gotham. I had missed the final two episodes of JLU and wanted to know what had happened to Lex/Brainiac. CN seriously underestimates how much fans love this show. What a shame.
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Post by Batdan on Dec 18, 2005 22:13:50 GMT -5
It is very strange. This is one I cannot figure out. Is the show that poorly rated that it gets this treatment?
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Post by Batlaw on Dec 18, 2005 22:27:09 GMT -5
It is very strange. This is one I cannot figure out. Is the show that poorly rated that it gets this treatment? Quite the contrary (which only makes it more perplexing), JLU is consistantly high ranking in CN's ratings. The last new Eps aired ranked 1st and 3rd place for the network!
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Dec 18, 2005 22:30:26 GMT -5
What channel do you think would pick this up? WB? Fox? G4TV?
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Post by Batdan on Dec 18, 2005 22:33:46 GMT -5
It is very strange. This is one I cannot figure out. Is the show that poorly rated that it gets this treatment? Quite the contrary (which only makes it more perplexing), JLU is consistantly high ranking in CN's ratings. The last new Eps aired ranked 1st and 3rd place for the network! Weird. And it also seems the figs sell well because they keep churning out lines with new characters.
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Post by The Dark Knight on Dec 19, 2005 16:36:43 GMT -5
What channel do you think would pick this up? WB? Fox? G4TV? I bet it would be WB
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Dec 31, 2005 15:18:06 GMT -5
I have an idea about why WB and CN have been so crappy to JLU and TT. There is no competition. Marvel hasn't had a good cartoon since X-men Evolution and that too was aired on a Warner Bros. channel. That means that the last good Marvel animated series that weren't on a WB subsidiary, were Spiderman: The Animated Series and the original X-men cartoon. They both aired on a subsidiary of Disney. If Disney came out with a few great Marvel cartoons, you can bet that WB would be wanting to give JLU and TT a better treatment. Not to make more money necessarily (although they would), but to stop Disney from getting more money.
Step it up Marvel!
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Post by All Star Batman on Dec 31, 2005 19:03:50 GMT -5
I'd like to see a new Spider-Man show. It would be cool if they made it like THE BATMAN with new villain designs. How about a show based off ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN?
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 2, 2006 16:38:06 GMT -5
Since any "real" news is in short supply, here are some interesting JLU bites from writer/producer Dwane McDuffie via his forum... JLU will not be returning in January either! Still no idea when. (for cryin out loud!) He was one of the lucky recipients of the infamous Hal Jordan Figure lol. (good for him ) When asked, he states both Gotham City and Bludhaven are "possible" for use in JLU and "one of them is even likely". (whoa momma... dare to dream huh) Regarding Hal Jordan's existance in the formal DCAU, "he is just a test pilot and never became a GL". (that stinks I always liked to think he was just out there somewhere) Mr. McDuffie further specified Hal's appearance in "The Once and Future Thing" Ep. is probably going to be his one and only appearence. However; he also remarked they "ended up scrapping a story involving him in season three". (no confirmation on *which season 3?) The previously anounced/intended JLU DTV is still a posibility and one Mr. McDuffies "most desired projects to see fullfilled". (just plain wrong if no such project ever sees happens) The Batman / Wonder Woman "romance" is basically done with. We may or may not see further teases, but the outcome is that "Wonder Woman gets the hint" and their relationship is nipped by Bats before it ever really begins. (ok. it was fun / cute but no great loss to the big picture IMO ) It's unlikely if not certain we will never see Batman don the "Beyond" costume through JLU. Also unlikely we will see more of the Justice League Beyond. (bummer)
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 2, 2006 19:18:59 GMT -5
What is Dwayne McDuffie's forum?
Shame there isn't going to be anymore JLB. I had hoped that they could have a spinoff along those lines. I agree with Batlaw about the "romance". It was fun while it lasted. I can't wait to see which city will be used. Please let it be Bludhaven. Looking forward to a JLU DTV movie. Still mad that JLU is being delayed. That wraps it up.
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Post by Batdan on Jan 2, 2006 20:10:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, Batlaw.
Cripes, you'd think CN would just run the remaining eps and be done with it.
I know, I know. I sound like a broken record.
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Post by coliv1977 on Jan 2, 2006 20:51:50 GMT -5
What channel do you think would pick this up? WB? Fox? G4TV? I bet it would be WB WB owns CN. That wouldn't make any sense
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 2, 2006 22:25:28 GMT -5
WB owns CN. That wouldn't make any sense None of this makes sense. It's so crazy, it might just work ;D.
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 3, 2006 10:58:32 GMT -5
Finally! something at least semi specific However; Much is, or was already known to some degree, but nice to get confirmation and details. Info taken from Comics2film.com's report/links: "The Legion of Super-Heroes will be featured along with Supergirl in an upcoming episode of Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited". "In the episode, Supergirl is kidnapped to the 31st century for what the history books say was her last adventure. The Fatal Five appears, as do more than 20 Legionaires". "Among the Legion members in the episode are Brainiac 5 and Bouncing Boy". "The Legion's appearance has nothing to do with the Legion show in development at Warner Bros. Animation". In other Justice League news, "Toonami UK has provided a hint at upcoming events in a recent release promoting its January programming". "It mentions "a two-part series finale" that "reveal the real reason behind all the super-villain's recent attacks and lead to the most unexpected team-up in Justice League history."
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Post by crazyhatter on Jan 3, 2006 13:06:12 GMT -5
Finally some news. I am glad to hear the show will reappear but it still makes me so mad that they are ending a great show
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 3, 2006 13:23:23 GMT -5
Finally some news. I am glad to hear the show will reappear but it still makes me so mad that they are ending a great show Indeed. Lets not go "jynxing" anything though... the show has not been officially cancelled or "killed" yet. The UK site listing the finale as "a two part Series finale" (rather than "season finale") doesnt Nec. mean anything.?
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 3, 2006 18:21:54 GMT -5
I am so happy! I will be so glad to finally get the rest of JLU. And I think that once it is over, I will go on to Legion of Superheroes. After all, I don't know that much about them. This will be a fun opportunity to watch something that I am so unfamiliar with. I am making the best of things.
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 3, 2006 19:54:47 GMT -5
Well, for me, I'm more than interested in, and willing to give any DC animated property a chance no matter what. The LOSH hasnt been entirely solidified or "green lit" just yet to my knowledge. Honestly I've never cared for the LOSH or it's story or characters though, so many factors will determine the level (or lack thereof) of my interest. Naturally if Timm and Co. were the creative team I wouldnt have any concerns and would anticipate my expectations to be exceeded. But I do not believe we're fortunate enough for this proposed LOSH series to be a "continuation" of the DCAU (and from what little is known / rumored) its quite the contrary. I was initially dissapointed in Titans too but the source material involved persuaded me to give it more time and kept my interest long enough for it to grow on me. I doubt LOSH will be able to do the same w/o really impressing me right off the bat?
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 3, 2006 20:39:12 GMT -5
Well, for me, I'm more than interested in, and willing to give any DC animated property a chance no matter what. The LOSH hasnt been entirely solidified or "green lit" just yet to my knowledge. Honestly I've never cared for the LOSH or it's story or characters though, so many factors will determine the level (or lack thereof) of my interest. Naturally if Timm and Co. were the creative team I wouldnt have any concerns and would anticipate my expectations to be exceeded. But I do not believe we're fortunate enough for this proposed LOSH series to be a "continuation" of the DCAU (and from what little is known / rumored) its quite the contrary. I was initially dissapointed in Titans too but the source material involved persuaded me to give it more time and kept my interest long enough for it to grow on me. I doubt LOSH will be able to do the same w/o really impressing me right off the bat? Any idea who will be in charge of this one? I know that WB has explicitly said that it wasn't Bruce Timm, but this still could be a winner without him. Granted I'm a lot more skeptical of it, but hopeful. As far as LoSH characters, I only know what I have read out of Wizard, for the revamp of LoSH comics. It has potential, but we will just have to wait and see how things turn out.
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Post by Wayne Corp on Jan 3, 2006 20:44:47 GMT -5
is there any word on cancelation of this series, i hope not! i would hate to see this era end. but with the teen titans canceled i can only wonder
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 3, 2006 20:53:41 GMT -5
is there any word on cancelation of this series, i hope not! i would hate to see this era end. but with the teen titans canceled i can only wonder There has been no official cancellation of JLU, but considering how they have continually delayed the new episodes, it doesn't look good. Plus, CN has been hyping their next DC toon that will not include Bruce Timm and is based off of the LoSH comic.
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Post by reideen1313 on Jan 3, 2006 21:16:07 GMT -5
I was initially dissapointed in Titans too but the source material involved persuaded me to give it more time and kept my interest long enough for it to grow on me. I doubt LOSH will be able to do the same w/o really impressing me right off the bat? For me, LoSH would need to be based on the Shooter-era LoSH up thru the early 80's versions of the characters. I really enjoyed the series back then - none of the retcons since then have really 'hit' with me unfortunately, up to and including Waid's current run. Something about the characters is just ...off... somehow. During the 70's and 80's runs, they were a great big team - every character that was a member had something to offer. Even the characters that were rejected made it into the Legion of Substitute Heroes. (I'd LOVE to see them make an appearance if this show gets made!) As far as villains, the Fatal Five are a must and so is Mordru.
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Post by crazyhatter on Jan 3, 2006 21:53:19 GMT -5
Well, for me, I'm more than interested in, and willing to give any DC animated property a chance no matter what. The LOSH hasnt been entirely solidified or "green lit" just yet to my knowledge. Honestly I've never cared for the LOSH or it's story or characters though, so many factors will determine the level (or lack thereof) of my interest. Naturally if Timm and Co. were the creative team I wouldnt have any concerns and would anticipate my expectations to be exceeded. But I do not believe we're fortunate enough for this proposed LOSH series to be a "continuation" of the DCAU (and from what little is known / rumored) its quite the contrary. I was initially dissapointed in Titans too but the source material involved persuaded me to give it more time and kept my interest long enough for it to grow on me. I doubt LOSH will be able to do the same w/o really impressing me right off the bat? Any idea who will be in charge of this one? I know that WB has explicitly said that it wasn't Bruce Timm, but this still could be a winner without him. Granted I'm a lot more skeptical of it, but hopeful. As far as LoSH characters, I only know what I have read out of Wizard, for the revamp of LoSH comics. It has potential, but we will just have to wait and see how things turn out. I was always hoping Timm and his crew would take a whack at creating the Green Lantern Corps animated show after they had finished with JLU. But I could understand if they were sick of writting DC shows and wanted a change.
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 3, 2006 23:11:45 GMT -5
As far as I'm aware or have been able to deduce, Timm and Co's love for DC characters runs as deep or moreso than any of ours. Also, from everything I've observed, their "love" of the properties and their desire to "keep working" on them (in one maner or direction or another) has not wained? If anything, IMO and my own speculation, it appears only the "corporate monster" will/would be powerful enough to kill their interest.? There are also always industry "politics" at play (too. But what do I know? Nothing really... other than I'm rapidly approaching the raving ranting fit throwing full on Fan-Boy state! ......
Rumor dejure? "no new episodes until maybe spring / summer"!?
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Post by blinker on Jan 4, 2006 1:31:33 GMT -5
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 4, 2006 11:22:32 GMT -5
How about NONE of the news is good!? The source(s) of those statements are "questionable", although Comics Continuum have reprinted the info and cite the source as a "network Rep"? No guaranties but considering the status quo so far, I have no trouble believing the quote.
As far as the comments regarding "the show's fate is also undecided"... it totally reads to me as a negative / "glass is half empty" opinion? rather than an optimistic one.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 4, 2006 18:10:12 GMT -5
KHAAAAAN!Wait, wrong show.
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 4, 2006 21:54:48 GMT -5
I don't know what to believe anymore. This rollercoaster that CN has put me through has been horrible. Nothing but vomit all over me. It really stinks.
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Post by The Dark Knight on Jan 4, 2006 21:59:17 GMT -5
I don't watch Cartoon Network anymore anyways Except for Teen Titans and JLU but they've really been making the wrong turns
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