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Post by HUSH on Sept 19, 2004 0:03:35 GMT -5
The episode was actually pretty cool. A lot better than last week's. I liked it. Penguin was very amsuing. Bruce Wayne playing basketball was pretty odd though. I know Bruce is younger in this show, but I never picture the guy playing basketball and things like that. This is definitely a less dark and obsessed Bruce Wayne. PunkRockGirl I like to think that, as Bruce Wayne, he's putting on an act whenever he's with anyone but Alfred. He doesn't want Bennet to know his secret, either.  |
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Post by Dusty on Sept 19, 2004 0:38:14 GMT -5
I actually like this show more than other BM shows because it is not as dark as the other ones, which is good,
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Post by DARK KNIGHT on Sept 19, 2004 2:06:27 GMT -5
I loved It
as for the show not being as dark hmmmm tough to say only two episodes but personally I'm really happy that The Batman is being kept dark so far I want that intro theme as a ringtone for my cellphone !
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 19, 2004 2:23:46 GMT -5
Matt, I'm surprised you didn't see more of the Batman Returns attitude in there. I noticed it almost instantly with the voice work (an interesting combination of DeVito and Burgess, with some unique Kenny flourishes), and his attitude, in particular the line you cited--reminded me of when Penguin, in Batman Returns, would make lewd comments to that make-up artist and Catwoman. I honestly think this is a benefit, as Returns had a great version of the character. |
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Sept 19, 2004 2:57:00 GMT -5
Oh, I can agree 100% with you about Burton's version being more monstrous and disgusting, both in appearance and his overall goals, than this version.
The DeVito elements I noticed came more or less from his attitude and some of the design--his sexist remarks, how clearly obnoxious he was, and design-wise, the sharpened teeth and flipper hands. It wasn't as overt as The Penguin's original, studio-mandated design in B:TAS of course--but then, like I said, it was more in his attitude that I saw the Batman Returns elements than the design itself.
But yes, he wasn't even close to as vile as the Batman Returns Penguin--he fell right in the middle for me, somewhere between the nasty little troll and rich cad. Amazing how thin a line there can be between the two!
In all, it wasn't even these elements, or the Burgess-ish voice, that impressed me the most. It was the original elements--the Cobblepot/Pennyworth animosity & the Anti-Bruce angle, that make me want to see more of this villain. This series is pacing itself well...introducing these villains, while still leaving much room to develop them and offer plenty of great stories to tell.
--Larry
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 19, 2004 7:12:19 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I also forgot to mention the Kabuki Twins! The first sequence that had them battling w/ Batman got over and I yelled out to my wife..."I NEED figures of these!". I smell customs! I've already got some ideas brewing... ...now I just need to get that Bane custom finished before next Saturday.... Oh, and I loved seeing the Bat-Glider pack...nice to see the toy/toon tie in there. As those of you that paid attention to San Diego con know.. www.legionsofgotham.org/THEBATMANWAVE2variants1.jpg[/shadow] |
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Post by ProfessorHStrange on Sept 19, 2004 7:44:14 GMT -5
Penguin was very good in this episode. The Penguin actually fighting and very well . I see a mixture of the Burgess Merideth and Danny DeVito Penguins here which is good! ProfessorHStrange!  |
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Post by Thunder on Sept 19, 2004 9:13:08 GMT -5
The Ozzmeister has arrived!!!
I LOVED this show! The amount of detective work and action were blended superbly. They showed off bat-gadgets without them overpowering the show. The Kabuki twins were just...well...creepy. Alfred was handled wonderfully in this episode. I see no reason why this show won't be the maga-hit the Timm series was.
All in all, a 17 out of 10 points.
Just, WOW!
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Post by Vgmastr on Sept 19, 2004 11:04:12 GMT -5
I loved this episode! I liked giving Penguin a backstory that involved Alfred, and allowed him to get involved in the action. The first shot of the giant tree was really cool. I wasn't a real big fan of Penguin being able to pull off some of those moves at the end, but I can live with it. I can't wait for next week!
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Post by re on Sept 19, 2004 12:33:57 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I also forgot to mention the Kabuki Twins! The first sequence that had them battling w/ Batman got over and I yelled out to my wife..."I NEED figures of these!". I smell customs! I've already got some ideas brewing... ...now I just need to get that Bane custom finished before next Saturday.... Oh, and I loved seeing the Bat-Glider pack...nice to see the toy/toon tie in there. As those of you that paid attention to San Diego con know.. www.legionsofgotham.org/THEBATMANWAVE2variants1.jpg[/shadow] Yeah, I liked those Kabuki twins, I liked their designs and how they fight. Also, I loved how they introduced the bat glider, I thought the design was really cool, and I hope to see more of it as this toon goes on, and when does the figure with the bat glider come out? |
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Sept 19, 2004 13:00:38 GMT -5
I'm actually curious about that second wave of toys, myself. Mainly because if they come out before Christmas, I might have to do more shopping for the kids. I already got 'em a Zip-Line Batman, Joker, Bruce Wayne, and one of the varients; as well as 2 Batcycles, 2 Batmobiles (they don't like sharing things like the vehicles), and a Batcave. And 2 Teen Titans toys on top of this! Heh, at this point it's going to be a very merry DC Christmas, since they've expressed no desire in anything *besides* these toys so far.
On a side note, I think anyone who was worried about the show being too "kiddified" and the villains being made more harmless (in particular after it was revealed Joker's toxin isn't lethal) really have to eat crow after this episode. Penguin's plan to feed Alfred to his birds has to be the most gruesome plot I've ever seen from an animated version of the character.
--Larry
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Post by EvanH on Sept 19, 2004 15:45:37 GMT -5
Great show! Better than last weeks, I give it a 10/10. Alot of it seemed influenced by Alfred Hitchcocks The Birds, (for example, when the bird attacks the lady in the red dress), which I thought was cool.
Pros:
-Batman's detective skills
-The party at Bruce's house
-"The Birds" influence
-The Kabuki Twins vs. Batman fight
-The history between the Pennyworths and Cobblepots
-Alfred investigating
-The Penguin (everything about him, except when he said "Ozzmeister")
-Penguin's weapons
-Batman vs. Penguin in the tree
-Penguin's martial arts...to a degree
Cons:
-Ellen Yin's futuristic looking gun...make em look modern!
-Don't give all the villains martial arts abilities! I admit it was cool seein the Penguin fight, but a little strange.
-How the hell did the Kabuki twins get in that car so fast?
One thing: are the Kabuki twins human?! Those are some scary ladies!!!
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Post by TheJoker on Sept 19, 2004 17:53:17 GMT -5
Seeing those Kabuki twin girls mask in the cage made me wonder more about them and what they llok like behind the mask.
Thats a good way they played those characters cause now they can use them more and even better because it built up suspense. Youd ont know anything about them.
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Post by HUSH on Sept 19, 2004 18:36:02 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that I don't think the Batwave was mentioned once in this whole episode!  ;D And the Kabuki Twins were great! The action in this show is just excellent.  |
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Sept 19, 2004 19:25:10 GMT -5
Actually, there was one mention of the Batwave. I believe Batman mentions at one point using the Batwave's search engine to find information--the Batwave having replaced the term "Bat-Computer" on this series.
Not that this is a negative, and I don't know why people are so hung up on this "Batwave" term they are using. The term is going to be used repeatedly on the series, but it isn't like every episode is going to provide an entire scene explaining what the Batwave is and what it can do. It's just one more thing, a very minor detail, that fills out the world of "The Batman".
Oh, and I agree, the Kubuki Twins were a very clever touch, and I hope they become a staple of this version of The Penguin, much the way Harley became so associated with The Joker.
--Larry
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Post by HUSH on Sept 19, 2004 19:41:50 GMT -5
Not that this is a negative, and I don't know why people are so hung up on this "Batwave" term they are using. The term is going to be used repeatedly on the series, but it isn't like every episode is going to provide an entire scene explaining what the Batwave is and what it can do. It's just one more thing, a very minor detail, that fills out the world of "The Batman". I agree. I was merely pointing out that it wasn't prominent at all in the episode, because many people were worried about it before. I think it is, like you said, this story's version of the batcomputer; it's just how he links everything together and gets his info. |
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Sept 19, 2004 20:57:06 GMT -5
Ah, I see. I apologize if I came off as snippy, because I was merely trying to point out how much of a non-issue the "Batwave" is.
My "hung up on the Batwave" comment was not so much directed at yourself, as generally directed at all the people who were worried/have expressed worry over and over that this Batwave thing was going to be an overpowering element of the series.
Like you said, it's merely a piece (or several pieces) of technology that link together all his equipment. In this day and age, I think it's something that makes a lot of sense, too.
I'll honestly be surprised if we hear the word "Batwave" mentioned more than once or twice every episode, if that.
--Larry
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Post by HUSH on Sept 19, 2004 22:11:57 GMT -5
Ah, I see. I apologize if I came off as snippy, because I was merely trying to point out how much of a non-issue the "Batwave" is. My "hung up on the Batwave" comment was not so much directed at yourself, as generally directed at all the people who were worried/have expressed worry over and over that this Batwave thing was going to be an overpowering element of the series. Like you said, it's merely a piece (or several pieces) of technology that link together all his equipment. In this day and age, I think it's something that makes a lot of sense, too. I'll honestly be surprised if we hear the word "Batwave" mentioned more than once or twice every episode, if that. --Larry That's cool. I didn't mean to make it sound like I had an issue w/Batwave, and was rejoicing at the absence of its mention in the ep. or anything. I was kind of poking fun at the exaggeration of its prominence in ep. 1, with my . If that makes any sense, which I doubt. ;D |
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Sept 20, 2004 0:03:56 GMT -5
Well, didn't you know the proposed original title for the episode was "Batwave Begins"?  Seriously, I think if they didn't devote all of 2 minutes to explaining the Batwave (such a *huge* amount of time spent, too!) a lot of fans would have been going "What is the Batwave? What does it do? What is its purpose? Aghh!" I was actually surprised to see how many people had an issue with Alfred's "infomercial," as the entire first episode was so fast paced it barely even registered with me. By comparison, "Call of the Cobblepot" had a lot less to establish in a mere 22 minutes, and moved at the perfect pace--never a dull moment, but with a lot more breathing room than "The Bat in the Belfry" had, too. I suspect that, for the most part, the pacing is going to more or less resemble that of "CotC" for the rest of the series. The pilot had the difficult task of establishing this universe, and with that out of the way, the crew can really spread their wings and show us what they are made of. If the calibre of craftmanship remains the same as what we've seen from these two episodes, and I see no reason to think it won't, we should all be very happy Bat-Fans indeed. --Larry |
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 20, 2004 1:20:13 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I'm gonna go on official record and say the Batwave is cool!  ....'nuff said Like I've said a thousand times...a ton of us here are collectors..we collect Batman toys...why are we complaining about toy tie-ins again......?[/shadow] |
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Post by Peev34 on Sept 20, 2004 1:30:03 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I'm gonna go on official record and say the Batwave is cool! ....'nuff said Like I've said a thousand times...a ton of us here are collectors..we collect Batman toys...why are we complaining about toy tie-ins again......?[/shadow] [shadow=blue,left,300]I could not agree more! I personally am dying for the batwave stuff to get here! And I sure as hell have no problem with it's presence in the show.[/shadow] |
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Post by HUSH on Sept 20, 2004 13:02:09 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I'm gonna go on official record and say the Batwave is cool! ....'nuff said Like I've said a thousand times...a ton of us here are collectors..we collect Batman toys...why are we complaining about toy tie-ins again......?[/shadow] I think so now, too. I was never complaining about it, in case anyone thought so. I've probably said this before, I've come to regard Batwave as being kind of cool. |
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Post by Violator on Sept 20, 2004 14:05:04 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that didnt like the Martial Art moves that "Ozzy" was sporting.
With The Joker and the Penguin doing these kind of athletic moves it's going to be alot less significant when Batman faces someone who should know Martial Arts, like Selina.
Other than that, and Penguin being a little to "hip" for my tastes, it was enjoyable.
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Post by Josh on Sept 20, 2004 15:39:20 GMT -5
[glow=blue,2,300]Overall, I thought the episode was great, and a lot better than the first. [/glow] |
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Post by Schemes on Sept 21, 2004 13:35:29 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that didnt like the Martial Art moves that "Ozzy" was sporting. With The Joker and the Penguin doing these kind of athletic moves it's going to be alot less significant when Batman faces someone who should know Martial Arts, like Selina. Other than that, and Penguin being a little to "hip" for my tastes, it was enjoyable. Exactly what I was thinking. I thought it was an awesome episode (agreeing with Josh, even better than the pilot-"Bat in tehy Belfry"), except the "moves I picked up while I was in the Orient..." (as quoted by Penguin in the ep), those just didn't fit, and Penguin's voice was a tad annoying. But besides that, kick butt! |
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Post by Batman Prevails on Sept 21, 2004 19:59:44 GMT -5
I just dont like "ozzie" being hip. Welcome to "The Batman." In case you haven't it noticed it yet, in that show EVERYTHING is hip. From Burce's clothing to the rusty old Wayne Manor which is now also functions as a trendy nightclub. Now before y'all accuse me of being ignorant again let me tell you that I liked this episode - apart from the Penguin's hat and Alfred which is really hard to get used to IMO. The glider action was great and I don't mind this interpretation of the Penguin. Since I loved Batman Returns I'm glad the fippers are back. |
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Post by TJM on Sept 22, 2004 7:06:48 GMT -5
I thought this episode was really good, better than the first one.
I don't have a problem with the Penguin being a martial artist, it just makes him more of a threat which is a good thing, Batman's villains should be a challenge for him.
This show seems to be heading in the right direction and I for one am looking forward to the rest of the season.
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Post by therealbat2004 on Sept 24, 2004 16:21:22 GMT -5
I am really enjoying this show. I can't wait to see this weekends. I liked how they had Alfred's grandfather be the butler to Penguins grandparents.
5 stars for me.
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Post by The Dinoboy Wonder! on Sept 24, 2004 20:29:26 GMT -5
I finally saw it not too long ago...okay...i've got one last complaint(typical me)...tas and tnba were more...psychological...more...complex...im afraid that this show is gonna be too kid friendly...no...WAYY too kid friendly...the good thing is that the bad guys are getting scarier and scarier...like the penguin, i mean, just look at the toys of the bad guys! theyre so ulgy! its perfect!
thejoker's horrible crazy lookin, the penguin's amonster...bane's skin turns red, mr freeze's head's an iceberg...its awesome!, but the show itself is wayy too kid friendly...I cannot understand how they actually managed to get such a complex show like TAS and TNBA into the tv for kids...oh, well...teh good ole days...today violence belongs to the anime...
still, I cannot WAIT TLL NEXT EPISODE!!!bane IS scary lookin..
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Post by The Dinoboy Wonder! on Sept 24, 2004 20:32:07 GMT -5
wait...no...*I did like the penguin being more agile and knowing a lil karate...
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;D And the Kabuki Twins were great! The action in this show is just excellent. 
