Chris Yost
Gotham Tourist
Writer, 'The Batman'
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Post by Chris Yost on Nov 15, 2004 16:23:35 GMT -5
Hey, all. Just wanted to stop by and say thanks to everyone for their comments and critiques - both are fun and helpful in their own way. Hopefully we'll see Firefly again, and we can get more into his story then. We really wanted to focus on the action, and the inherent problems that a dual identity gives Bruce. And lasers. Thanks! Chris Yost
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Post by J-Man on Nov 15, 2004 16:34:02 GMT -5
Hopefully we'll see Firefly again, and we can get more into his story then. We really wanted to focus on the action, and the inherent problems that a dual identity gives Bruce. [shadow=purple,left,300]I see. However, the action isn't necessarily what makes this enjoyable, though it is an added bonus, but rather character development. I thought this was the only episode so far that lacked sturdy development. Even Bruce's dual persona seemed sloppy.[/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 15, 2004 23:50:09 GMT -5
Hey, all. Just wanted to stop by and say thanks to everyone for their comments and critiques - both are fun and helpful in their own way. Hopefully we'll see Firefly again, and we can get more into his story then. We really wanted to focus on the action, and the inherent problems that a dual identity gives Bruce. And lasers. Thanks! Chris Yost [shadow=green,left,300]LoL! You've defintely got the laser part down! Thanks for posting Chris. Its great to have you around! There's plenty of time to develop each character...sometimes we need to see things other than batman vs random villian. There IS more to Bruce's story than just the villians![/shadow]
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Post by Faithfulbutler on Nov 16, 2004 0:33:14 GMT -5
Mr Yost,thanks so much for letting us in and for being a part of this forum. I think for a cartoon ideally aimed at kids that it's important to draw them in with the action.Character development that you mention is important but it can be a gradual thing and once the fans are there it makes it a lot easier to develop. Hell,i remember myself as a kid the action was the most important thing.Once i was a fan of a cartoon then i was quite happy to be taken wherever the writers wanted to take me. Thanks so much for the insight,as an adult i can still enjoy the escapism of a Cartoon and look forward to characters true personas developing over time.Which i truly believe this cartoon has plenty of.
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Post by reideen1313 on Nov 16, 2004 0:47:49 GMT -5
I can honestly say that all action in my house stops at 9:30 central on Saturday mornings. Having 5 kids, that's saying a lot! ;D Me and the kids really enjoyed the Firefly ep. I liked the little touches that made him look like a firefly - his jetpack was always lit up - it wasn't just a flame coming out of the pack. The lasers that he used were excellent. I liked how Batman lost an ear and thus lost contact with Alfred. I wonder if something like that will be exploited in later episodes.... Anyway, I really liked this episode. For me, it's right up there with the Manbat and Penguin episodes which, for me have been the strongest episodes so far. The Bane, Joker, Catwoman and Freeze episodes have been good, but the other 3 have just had a little more "oomph!" IMO. Oh - Chris - thanks for coming on and sharing your thoughts with us by the way! I think I can speak for just about everyone here and say that we really appreciate the input from all the industry members we have on the site!
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Drizzt2218
Legions of Gotham Police Officer
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Nov 16, 2004 1:33:23 GMT -5
Mr. Yost, thanks very much for posting over here. I, and I'm sure many other fans, appreciate your taking the time to join us and share some of what goes on in the creative process.
I must admit though, that I'm surprised you chose "action" as the first word to describe what the focus of the episode was...as truthfully, I thought this episode had much less action than some of the others: One of the very reasons I would rate this installment so highly. One thing this series is not lacking in is action, and to be honest, that's the one aspect that I think could be toned down.
Batman has always been a plot and character driven drama, in the comics, the radio plays, the movies, and the animated series. The only time this hasn't proven true was in the 50's and 60's, and despite whatever fondness we may all have for those eras, I think any Batman fan can agree the emphasis on action over plot is to the detriment of the character. There are plenty of generic action cartoons, even action cartoons that have directly lifted some aspects of Batman. But what makes Batman stand out is just that: It's Batman. It's unique. There is magic and power to the myth that captivates us, young and old alike. The second that the myth is ignored in favor of action, is the second you lose that which makes Batman great, that which can make The Batman great as well.
I can hear the reasoning behind the emphasis. Kids are different from the days of Batman: The Animated Series. They don't want plot. They won't understand it. And frankly, that just isn't true. If anything, kids are growing up more quickly these days...they are being exposed to more of life much earlier, and there is nothing we can do about that. It would be a mistake to sell them short, to sell their comprehension of plot short, and to make things overly simplistic, both in the plots and the dialogue.
If you look at the top films of the summer and fall, you'll see Spider-Man 2, Shrek, Shark Tale, and The Incredibles topping this list. Two of these smash hits are super-hero films. Three of them are animated. None of them are simplistic, all of them are character driven, and all of them have a great balance between plot and action--and the plot always comes first. This is what the audience is, or should be. It's a mixture of kids and adults alike, and the kids watching The Batman are the same kids who are watching these films. These films should be the model, and if the series should become entirely driven by the action, gadgetry, or Lord forbid introducing new costumes each week to sell the toys, it will lose the audience and fail.
I wouldn't presume to tell anybody how to write this series. You're all professionals with credentials, I'm not. But episodes like this one and Call of the Cobblepot show strength and the potential for greatness...by exploring the conflicts of duality within Bruce, the concern of Alfred, the early reaction the police have to this Batman, the question of whether The Batman is stopping the freaks or creating them, and by giving these villains great personalities and great motivations. And because this is also a nitpick of mine, by having compelling dialogue that for the most part stays clear of juvenile puns that create more groans than laughs. An episode shouldn't really have more than two big action pieces in it, with only 22 minutes, should it? There's the first time The Batman crosses paths with the villain, and the climactic battle with the villain. That leaves a whole second act to devote to furthering the plot and characters, and the themes and questions this show has raised are great ones which make this unique from other incarnations.
Some episode should operate at a breakneck speed, and episodes like "The Man Who Would Be Bat" benefit from an emphasis on action. But if every episode, or the majority of episodes, are paced in such a way, it would truly be a shame. The first 26 episodes are done, so any and all feedback will only be taken into account and perhaps factored into the next 13 or 26, when the series inevitably receives a renewal.
I'm looking forward to seeing where this series heads, and I truly believe that it can be, and will be, another great installment in the Batman Legacy. As a Batman fan, I am thrilled. And if I come off as negative, I'm really not. Furthest thing from it. I'm a big fan and supporter of this series, and knowing of all the people involved and what they are capable of, I have only the highest of expectations as a fan. I can't wait for the day when even the people who have bashed this series for whatever reason look back and go "Wow, we were so wrong. This is neither as good nor worse than Batman: The Animated Series...it's just another way of looking at the mythology, and a great one at that." I truly believe in this series, and episodes like "The Big Heat" are the reason why.
--Larry
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Post by Peev34 on Nov 16, 2004 9:49:28 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Chris, First of all let me say that I thrilled that you have chosen to be an active part of our forum! It is extremely refreshing that you have chosen to take the time and offer us the opportunity to discuss your work, as many other industry professionals have done at LoG.
IMO, I think you are doing an outstanding job with your writing! Character development, while important, is something that can be worked over time. Part of the Batman universe that is so great is the MYSTERY behind many of the characters. Personally, I think it is more enjoyable to wonder for a few weeks "where does this guy come from" than to know all about a guy right off the bat. You have done a wonderful job leaving enough holes is ones background to pull me in the next time he/she is on the show!
And the fast paced action is PERFECT for the show!
Thanks again for taking the time, and I look forward to many discussions with you![/shadow]
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ROBOTRON
Gotham Tourist
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Post by ROBOTRON on Nov 16, 2004 11:47:27 GMT -5
Once again I think people are not giving todays kids enough credit...kids nowadays are much more sophisticated than even 10 years ago. They learn to speak, operate computers, etc. at a very early age now.
They can comprehend a good story!!!
Give them a little credit!
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Drizzt2218
Legions of Gotham Police Officer
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Nov 16, 2004 12:59:15 GMT -5
Peev, while I respect your opinion that fast-paced is better, I have to strongly disagree with this. I cannot help but feel that if the show is predominately about the fisticuffs, with only the barest of hints towards the themes and motivations that drive The Batman and his villains (as I feel was the case with The Big Chill), you lose some, if not most, of the magic that makes Batman so compelling in the first place. As I said, there is power to the mythology that has captivated people for many years, and if Batman is reduced to another guy in a costume (or my worst fear, a bunch of costumes) fighting just another bunch of kooky villains with gimmicks, then...well, it may look like Batman, but it won't hold the audience that would watch a true Batman series. I think there are exceptions of course, and not every episode needs or should be big on the pathos. But if the ratio tips in the scale of mindless action, it would truly be a shame.
Robotron, while we disagree on the merits of this particular episode (you didn't seem to enjoy it because of the lack of depth given to Firefly, I enjoyed it a great deal due to the focus and depth given to Bruce's character), we both seem to agree on one thing: Plot, plot, plot. The second you sell short the kids in your audience and their comprehension to appreciate a good story, is the second those kids change the channel.
Fewer and fewer kids are watching Saturday Morning Cartoons, and the reason is because those cartoons have become so inane as to insult them. If your target audience is 7-12 year olds, these kids are really about as mature as 10-15 year olds were back when Batman: The Animated Series made its debut. Kids are growing up quicker, learning more earlier, and do not enjoy having things dumbed down for them. Again, I say, look at these smash hits that targeted kids and adults alike, with an emphasis placed on kids: Spider-Man 2, Shrek, Shark Tale, The Incredibles. At times, each of these films slowed down to focus on the characters and the plot. The kids didn't leave the show, or fall asleep. They were riveted, involved in the stories and the characters. If these movies were completely fast paced (and thus about 20-30 minutes shorter), I can almost promise none of them would have done the business that they have.
Anyway, this is just my opinion, and just to clarify, I'm not saying that "The Batman" is mindless action or that it's a "dumbed down" show or any of that...Just stating what I would hope to see more of in the series, and what I hope the series never becomes. I wasn't sure if I'd made that point or not, and I wouldn't wish to give the wrong impression. I'm not sure how, if you read my posts, you would actually come to the conclusion that I don't like this series--but one never knows what someone will misread. Better to be completely clear in your opinions, I say. I'm very much enjoying this series, and I think it will only get better over time.
--Larry
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Post by reideen1313 on Nov 16, 2004 13:35:00 GMT -5
That's the thing though Robo. I don't think we're selling kids short at all. I've sat down with my very own 'test market' so to speak and, like I said before - all activity in my house stops when The Batman is on.
I can't say the same for Pokemon, Yugioh, Kids Next Door, Power Rangers, Dora the Explorer or any other 'kids' show that is on right now. Even Ninja Turtles, which IMO is one of the better animated shows on TV right now, doesn't bring the same focus/interest from my kids that The Batman does. I'm not an industry professional, but I am a dad that is pretty in touch with what his kids like and don't like. If a show is 'beneath' them, usually I know pretty quickly.
I think the writers are on the right track as far as the proper 'mix' for this show. I don't think the Firefly ep suffered at all by not having an origin. As fans of Batman, I think we sometimes get too wrapped up in needing to know all the background on each character we see. We want to know if it's this character or that character, or if Nora is part of the origin, etc - which really isn't needed to tell a good story. In fact, leaving that information up to the viewer can lead to the kids using their imagination, asking their parents who's who (and parent/child interaction now days is a good thing!), or suprise suprise - future episodes where those origins are fully explored!
I think we're seeing the groundwork being laid for a great series. We as fans just have to relax, be patient and let it unfold in front of us.
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Post by J-Man on Nov 16, 2004 14:36:21 GMT -5
Once again I think people are not giving todays kids enough credit...kids nowadays are much more sophisticated than even 10 years ago. They learn to speak, operate computers, etc. at a very early age now. They can comprehend a good story!!! Give them a little credit! [shadow=purple,left,300]I agree 100%. Kids can decipher a story. I despise people who underrate children and use their assumed short attention span as a way to support the commercialization of a show.
A lot of the Bruce/ lateness story line was excellent. But as I've said, it feels like the writers tossed a random villain into the mix. It was like they needed a gimmick, then a good story. If they wanted to focus on Bruce with an additional threat, they could've used someone else.
Besides, if I wanted to watch a show with no story, I'd watch the "Fairly Oddparents" on Nickelodeon, which is on at the same time. [/shadow]
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Post by reideen1313 on Nov 16, 2004 15:01:04 GMT -5
I agree 100%. Kids can decipher a story. I despise people who underrate children and use their assumed short attention span as a way to support the commercialization of a show. I would agree with you here J-man. There are a number of shows (the Boom Crew springs to mind) that are just too bad to watch. A lot of the Bruce/ lateness story line was excellent. But as I've said, it feels like the writers tossed a random villain into the mix. It was like they needed a gimmick, then a good story. If they wanted to focus on Bruce with an additional threat, they could've used someone else. Here we disagree. The fact that Bruce was late because he was trying to be everywhere at once - with no balance in his life - was a good "lesson" for him to learn. Like I said earlier - if we got all the origin eps right now, what would you be looking forward to in season 2 or 3? Besides, if I wanted to watch a show with no story, I'd watch the "Fairly Oddparents" on Nickelodeon, which is on at the same time. [/shadow] [/color][/quote] Wow. I totally disagree. I love Fairly Oddparents. It's a very imaginative show that really isn't a "marketing tool" to sell toys. It's just a good cartoon - something that is becoming more and more rare these days. Another current classic that's out there is Spongebob. I love Spongebob. I'll be seeing the movie shortly after it comes out. I wish we were getting new episodes of Dexter's Lab, but I guess I can't have everything I want! ;D
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Chris Yost
Gotham Tourist
Writer, 'The Batman'
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Post by Chris Yost on Nov 16, 2004 15:31:50 GMT -5
Okay... I have no idea how to do multiple quotes (and wouldn't, even if it was explained to me) so bear with me.
J-Man! I respect your opinion, although disagree.
Faithfulbutler! My pleasure. Of course action is important to the show, but in this case, the conflict really was between Bruce and Batman. A laser powered bad guy was just one more complication.
reideen1313! I liked the ear bit as well.
Drizzt! The meat of the episode is absolutely the dilemma Bruce faces with the City Council and GothCorp, as well as the struggle between identities. In the end, that's what motivates everything, including the action. I mentioned it simply because we had an intentional goal with the action, especially at the beginning to the episode - to go in with guns blazing, then slowly reveal the hows and whys.
Peev34 - thanks for watching!
ROBOTRON - I completely agree with your assessment of kids today.
J-Man (part 2) - Firefly was a specific choice. If I needed a random villain, I would have picked Poison Ivy, cause she's purdy. But the corporate sabotage suited Firefly better. (and NO, I have no idea if Ivy is showing up, coming soon, etc. Just an example.)
reideen (part 2) - kep watching Turtles - it's only getting better. I've got some TMNT episodes coming up at the end of the third season.
Thanks, all! See you next season!
C
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Post by Peev34 on Nov 16, 2004 15:39:54 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]First guys, GREAT DISCUSSION! This is what we are all about!
Larry, I completely respect your insight, but I think you may have mis-interpreted what I was trying to say. I never said that the fast-paced action was "better", but rather a very appropriate part of the show that I happen to find entertaining. Well developed stories are EXTREMELY important to me and should take precedence over the fisticuffs, which I feel this show has done successfully for the most part, even in it's earliest stages. Does it have a ways to go? Of course it does!
That is what is so great about an ongoing series...you can always go back and address something that may have been overlooked, intentionally or not, in previous episodes.
The one common theme among those that have a problem with this week's episode is the lack of a deeper story about Firefly. Understood, but look at it this way....just how enjoyable would a show be if they spent every single week going over the origin of the villians that are being re-introduced on a weekly basis? There is always time for that down the line, IMO.
Another point that some have illustrated is that this show is not just about the villians! VERY TRUE! Some weeks you are going to have more focus on Bruce's struggle with dual identity than you would about where (insert villian here) came from. remember, this is NOT the BTAS Batman we all came to love. In many ways, we are learning new things about Batman as well as this is a completely different take on the character. None of this can be acheived in just a few episodes....the same rule applies to the villians, IMO.
In other words, give it more time. The show is still very much in it's infancy and is not going to "get it right" for everyone all the time.
And to those that keep talking about how kids are more intellegent than we give them credit for...I agree 100%...OH and by the way...have you seen the ratings to the show??. Hmm, maybe the kids are on to something as "The Batman" continues to be a ratings giant for KidsWB. Just an afterthought.... ;D[/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 16, 2004 16:53:25 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300] Besides, if I wanted to watch a show with no story, I'd watch the "Fairly Oddparents" on Nickelodeon, which is on at the same time. [/shadow] [shadow=green,left,300]Thats lovely JMan..but this episode undeniably DID have a story...just not the one you wanted. Doesn't mean it had any less substance. The villians are ALWAYS there in Gotham giving Batman trouble...but sometimes other aspects of his life do come up and they fall to the backround. I thought it showed a lot of courage by the writers to stray off the beaten path with this story and not focus all on the villian.[/shadow]
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Post by J-Man on Nov 16, 2004 17:07:55 GMT -5
Here we disagree. The fact that Bruce was late because he was trying to be everywhere at once - with no balance in his life - was a good "lesson" for him to learn. Like I said earlier - if we got all the origin eps right now, what would you be looking forward to in season 2 or 3? [shadow=purple,left,300]It was a good lesson. But I wanted them to at least give Firefly a backstory other than the given fact that he was a man hired to sabbotage major industries in Gotham. Just a three minute backstory is all I'm asking. Who was Firefly? Why is he here? Who is the man behind the helmet? What is his major malfunction? Simple. Anyone would and could live with three minutes.[/shadow] Wow. I totally disagree. I love Fairly Oddparents. It's a very imaginative show that really isn't a "marketing tool" to sell toys. It's just a good cartoon - something that is becoming more and more rare these days. Another current classic that's out there is Spongebob. I love Spongebob. I'll be seeing the movie shortly after it comes out. I wish we were getting new episodes of Dexter's Lab, but I guess I can't have everything I want! ;D [shadow=purple,left,300]Oh, I didn't say it was a bad show. I think it's a great cartoon. I usually eat my breakfast while watching it, and that alone says something. It is simple, for simple minds, which is why I said that. I usually won't eat in front of anything I hate. As for Spongebob- He's my favorite! I guess it's safer for him in the world, as his creator acknowledges that he's just there for airtime. Plus, he's actually funny. [/shadow][shadow=green,left,300]Thats lovely JMan..but this episode undeniably DID have a story...just not the one you wanted. Doesn't mean it had any less substance. The villians are ALWAYS there in Gotham giving Batman trouble...but sometimes other aspects of his life do come up and they fall to the backround. I thought it showed a lot of courage by the writers to stray off the beaten path with this story and not focus all on the villian.[/shadow] [shadow=purple,left,300]A lot of people would agree with me that three minutes of backstory would tie up a lot of things. And yes, ha ha, it did have a story. And again, you're right, it wasn't to my liking. Which is why I'm voicing my opinion on this page. Besides, this is my first huge complaint with the series, so give me a break.
Finally, kids like the show. The ratings are incredible. I'm just afraid that this first riff won't be the last in my book, which is only open by the few, it seems, when it corresponds with popular opinion.[/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 17, 2004 5:27:19 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]It was a good lesson. But I wanted them to at least give Firefly a backstory other than the given fact that he was a man hired to sabbotage major industries in Gotham. Just a three minute backstory is all I'm asking. Who was Firefly? Why is he here? Who is the man behind the helmet? What is his major malfunction? Simple. Anyone would and could live with three minutes.[/shadow] [shadow=green,left,300]He's a pyromaniac for hire. There really isn't that much more to Firefly in the first place....not like he's a character with a rich psychological backround. Pretty straight forward. We didn't really need a backstory on him more than we needed on Mayor Grange or Gothcorp...Mayor Grange stated he was a friend of Thomas Wayne's...Gothcorp is a crooked rival tech company...neither were the main focus of this story, simply the backdrop. Bruce is coming to terms with his duality and the reality that he can't be everywhere at once. Thats the entire point of the episode..not Firefly. Like Chris said....[/shadow] J-Man! I respect your opinion, although I disagree. keep watching Turtles - it's only getting better. I've got some TMNT episodes coming up at the end of the third season. Thanks, all! See you next season! C [shadow=green,left,300]Can't wait to see what you take on in season two! I'll be watching for your TMNT eps also! thanks for taking the time to hang out with us Chris![/shadow]
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Post by reideen1313 on Nov 17, 2004 11:06:49 GMT -5
I wanted them to at least give Firefly a backstory other than the given fact that he was a man hired to sabbotage major industries in Gotham. Just a three minute backstory is all I'm asking. Who was Firefly? Why is he here? Who is the man behind the helmet? What is his major malfunction? Simple. Anyone would and could live with three minutes. You're right. Three minutes isn't a lot of time. In my daily life, I probably spend 3 minutes a day just deciding what I'm going to do for the next 10 minutes! ;D In the television world though, when you only have 22 minutes an episode to tell a complete, coherent story, 3 minutes is a looong time. When the focus of the story really isn't the villain, but is really a problem with the dual identities that Bruce has, that should be the focus of the show. Firefly - in this ep - was just a supporting player. Like Matt said, he was no more deserving of an origin than Mayor Grange or the city council members. They weren't the focus of this episode. So, if we allowed 3 minutes for the background on Firefly that would leave approximately 18 minutes to tell the rest of the story. What would you cut out? Personally, I can't think of anything that didn't move the story forward, that could have been replaced by an origin, which we may get at a later date. Chris, thanks for the info on TMNT. It is a show that I enjoy personally and I'll be looking forward to your episodes. I appreciate you coming on and talking to us about your work. That goes for all the industry people that come here to LOG to interact with the fans of the show (and the products on the shelves) I think it's great - not something that you find on other forums. So I guess I just want to say Thank You to all of you!
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Post by Peev34 on Nov 17, 2004 12:08:47 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]I agree 100%. Kids can decipher a story. I despise people who underrate children and use their assumed short attention span as a way to support the commercialization of a show.
[/shadow] [shadow=purple,left,300] Finally, kids like the show. The ratings are incredible. I'm just afraid that this first riff won't be the last in my book, which is only open by the few, it seems, when it corresponds with popular opinion.[/shadow] [shadow=blue,left,300]That's the thing Jman, KIDS ARE THE POPULAR OPINION! This show is not aimed at adults (or teenagers as is the case with you) in general. And yes, kids today are very smart. They know what they like and do not need anyone to tell them what is good for them! Again...see the ratings. Any "commercialization" on WB's part seems to be working. In fact, it's working on me, a 28 year old kid! I'll buy anything associated with this show! Side note: There is no way that anyone here can dispute the fact that while this is a kid's show, that Matsuda, Yost, and crew have not done a fantastic job throwing in the occasional bit of "Fanboy love" for us bat-fans! I see it constantly and greatly appreciate it! [/shadow]
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Post by Batdan on Nov 17, 2004 21:17:17 GMT -5
I thought The Big Heat was one of the better episodes so far. I appreciated the interweaving of the storylines between Bruce and Batman. For the most part, the show is very basic and the subplot added some sense of sophistication.
On the whole, I like the series. I don't love it yet but I'm enjoying it for what it is. I don't think I'm breaking ground when I say the action sequences are superior to BTAS but that the stories are a bit formulaic and streamlined. It's definitely geared toward younger viewers. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Post by Peev34 on Nov 18, 2004 0:34:32 GMT -5
I thought The Big Heat was one of the better episodes so far. I appreciated the interweaving of the storylines between Bruce and Batman. For the most part, the show is very basic and the subplot added some sense of sophistication. On the whole, I like the series. I don't love it yet but I'm enjoying it for what it is. I don't think I'm breaking ground when I say the action sequences are superior to BTAS but that the stories are a bit formulaic and streamlined. It's definitely geared toward younger viewers. Not that there's anything wrong with that. [shadow=blue,left,300]Great feedback batdan! Thank you! And welcome to LoG![/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 18, 2004 6:33:28 GMT -5
I thought The Big Heat was one of the better episodes so far. I appreciated the interweaving of the storylines between Bruce and Batman. For the most part, the show is very basic and the subplot added some sense of sophistication. On the whole, I like the series. I don't love it yet but I'm enjoying it for what it is. I don't think I'm breaking ground when I say the action sequences are superior to BTAS but that the stories are a bit formulaic and streamlined. It's definitely geared toward younger viewers. Not that there's anything wrong with that. [shadow=green,left,300]Welcome aboard batdan! A very fair and reasonable assesment of the show thus far. Personally, I'm more into it...but that probably has something to do with my son and I sharing a Batman cartoon for the first time. ;D He won't even watch BTAS...doesn't keep his attention quite yet. [/shadow]
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Post by Robin on Nov 18, 2004 13:20:28 GMT -5
This episode was awesome. I can't wait for the Firefly fig.
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Post by Batdan on Nov 21, 2004 14:33:13 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]Welcome aboard batdan! A very fair and reasonable assesment of the show thus far. Personally, I'm more into it...but that probably has something to do with my son and I sharing a Batman cartoon for the first time. ;D He won't even watch BTAS...doesn't keep his attention quite yet. [/shadow] That's actually what I'm enjoying most with it too: Watching it with my son. We tape it every week and make a big deal about watching it. It's great passing it on to another generation
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Post by m.arndt on Dec 13, 2004 13:51:02 GMT -5
This episode was finally shown on regular Canadian cable. I really enjoyed it, I liked how they showed the conflict between being Batman and Bruce Wayne. ...and it's always good to hear Adam West's voice in a Batman cartoon
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Post by Batlaw on Feb 21, 2005 22:59:06 GMT -5
I finally got to see this episode, and I think it's one of my favorites so far!
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