Bird of Prey Official Talkback Thread!

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[shadow=green,left,300]Chat here about today's new epsiode of 'The Batman' Bird of Prey, featuring Penguin![/shadow]

[ROBOTRON]

Pretty good....

Alfred in the costume...halarious! Action packed episode.

7.9/10 rating.

[BullocK]

[shadow=red,left,300]This was a fantastic episode. I really like the idea that Penguin is not only Batman's nemesis, but Bruce Wayne's as well. It makes the character that much more interesting.

Interesting take on the grandfather clock entrance to the cave by the way. Plenty of action, and the ending was fantastic with Alfred making the save regarding Batman's identity. Putting on the suit backwards..lol..classic.[/shadow]

[wayneson]

I also liked it, ROBOTRON. It was an effective twist on the "reporter-who-almost-finds-out-who-Batman-is" convention that we've seen before (I thought of BTAS "Night of the Ninja" w/ Summer Gleason, among others). I also feel that the Penguin (as martial and weapon artist) is really working out well; I much prefer this characterization to the foppish and basically physically harmless version voiced by Paul Williams in BTAS. Unfortunately, despite these positives, this series has a long way to go to match the depth of dialogue and plot development that I have seen during the Dini/Timm era. Side note to Mattel: an Alfred (as Batman unmasked) figure would be, for this collector, manna from heaven. Don't forget to put the emblem on the back, either.

[Josh]

[glow=blue,2,300]I'm really starting hate Kids WB, first they changed the day it was on, then they bumped the episode earlier by an hour. So far I've missed 2 episodes, and no reruns, it sucks.[/glow]

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[shadow=green,left,300]I really enjoyed this one. The show feels like its getting more comfortable in its own skin. I think season two and three will really be stellar.

I enjoyed alfred taking over as bats...a very classic circumstance that, I feel, was played out well on the show. I also enjoy Penguin being more of a physical threat...because lets face it, he's not much of a challenge to bats otherwise...tricky umbrellas only get you so far lol.

overall 9 out of 10[/shadow]

[Batdan]

I really liked this episode.

Superb action sequences -- perhaps the best so far on the series. Which is interesting considering it's the Penguin. I like that they've made him threatening and I like the scissorhand twins -- and I LOVED the Hannibal Lecter homage.

Alfred is really well done in this series and this was an excellent showcase. (My wife, who tolerates my batdementia, says he's her favorite character on the show and she really enjoyed this episode.)

I've never been a big Penguin fan. But this episode was a kick. Well done.

[re]

I liked this episode too, especially the end fight and Alfred dressed as Batman, overall I would give it an 7.8/10

[Robin]

This is no doubt one of the best episodes. I still don't think Penguin could fight that well because let's face it, he's still fat and Batman knows why more martial arts. But anyways the ep was still great and this show can only get better and better.

[ROBOTRON]

wayneson said:

I also liked it, ROBOTRON.

Unfortunately, despite these positives, this series has a long way to go to match the depth of dialogue and plot development that I have seen during the Dini/Timm era.

INDEED....I agree totally.

*Robo waits for Matt to launch counter attack to this post* ;D

[zorro]

Moral of the story: ALways have a spare when going on an interview you don't even want. ;D

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ROBOTRON said:

INDEED....I agree totally.

*Robo waits for Matt to launch counter attack to this post* ;D

I agree with you both, and I am not comparing this to the old show (because you just can't), but you, and I, and every one here are giving this show a chance, and for what it is, its not bad, but no where near the BTAS. I mean no disrespect to anyone working on The Batman, I watch it and enjoy it every Saturday.

[ROBOTRON]

I enjoy it quite a bit...really, I need this show to succeed...otherwise JLU and Smallville will be the only thing left for me to watch.

*GULP*

I can't ake anymore repetitive pokemon, or the yucky Yu-gi-oh or any of the other crappy toons out there.

[J-Man]

[shadow=purple,left,300]I did enjoy this episode. It was a bit odd with the whole "Penguin Missing Pants" thing they did in a few scenes, but none the less it was an awesome episode. I think Penguin's developing hate for both Bruce and Batman really evolved in this episode. I also really liked the use of the umbrella-copter. "The Batman" has one of the best versions of the Penguin yet... now if they can only give him a better voice.

9 out of 10.[/shadow]

[GOTHAMANGEL]

It is nice to see the show is coming along well. This latest episode we see a familiar character that we all know, and get a new twist on his origin without tearing down everything that came before. Like most of the episodes I have seen so far, this show is NOT like the early 90s version, and it does not have to be. I hope this series will have a long sucessful run, because this is how new fans are attracted, or should I day "young blood". The movies are often too heavy for young kids and should be geared towards older fans. Batman is for everyone, that is what makes him unique. I still miss Batman Beyond though!

[wayneson]

Ditto on your BB take, Gothamangel. That show was extremely well done; they took a totally original idea for the character and executed it with the younger generation in mind - more action, modern music and settings, etc. - but the show very carefully but purposefully threaded the history of Batman through the plotlines. In addition, the dialogue and narratives didn't suffer in comparison to BTAS. WB's current "The Batman" has the potential to be just as good:
Step One - lose the cliches in the dialogue
Step Two - Batman needs another ally; if it's not Robin, then Gordon or Leslie Thompkins - or perhaps take advantage of the new Batgirl in the comics, Cassandra Cain
Step Three - more depth in the narrative; this show is screaming for a two-parter!

No matter what, I'll still be watching... ;D

[goldengordon]

I hated this episode.

Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but when Bruce was on the phone with Penguin, Bruce never mentioned coming to dinner, it was penguin. But when the cameraman asks what they were doing next, the reporter remarks they are going to "dinner."

Now, unless she heard the Penguin mention dinner, that line doesn't really make any sense,

Maybe I'll go back and try and watch it again, but I just did not care for this one at all.

[ROBOTRON]

GOTHAMANGEL said:

I still miss Batman Beyond though!

OMG...so do I.

[Arkham16]

[glow=red,2,300]I hate penguin, plain and simply i think he is one of the most disgusting and annoying characters. BUT i loved this ep. BTAS never made a penguin ep that i really liked so Matsuda has deffinately made a good series so far. My favorite part would have got to be the dubbing of batman as "The Dark Knight". 9 out of 10[/glow]

[DareBat]

Penguin is a lot more.... Acrobatic in this series.
He's not exactly smarter though.
Plus, he's a slob.
This episode wasn't the best, but it was promising.

[HUSH]

I can't believe it! I forgot and missed another one! However, I WILL NOT miss the 2-part finale!

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HUSH said:

I can't believe it! I forgot and missed another one! However, I WILL NOT miss the 2-part finale!

LOL...you need a good DVR, HUSH. ;D

This Saturday, I will handcuff myself to my TV for the 1st of this 2 part episode...wild Penguins couldn't keep me away from this one.

[Peev34]

Sorry so late...I just was now able to watch my recording of the ep.....

I really loved this one. It seems that character development took some great strides here. Every last character in the show is becoming more and more the real deal and not just "Matsuda's version" as some critrics might say (BTW...to me Matsuda's version of everything kicks @$$...no complaints here!). Before too long, we will undoubtedly see this show start to influence the comics...no question in my mind.

My one tiny gripe is about the Penguin's new found fighting skills. I agree that it is fun to see Ozzie as more of a physical threat to Batman....as Matt said....tricky umbrellas can only do so much, but I think they could scale it back just a tad. No overhaul or anything, just a small tweak. That's said however, I really think The Penguin may be my favorite villain on the show!!

[pdd]

Best ep yet