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Post by /\/\att on Nov 12, 2005 8:30:30 GMT -5
Discuss "BRAWN", the 6th new episode of The Batman: season 3, featuring Joker on Venom, here!
*written by Alexx Van Dyne
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 12, 2005 9:37:10 GMT -5
I was a little disappointed. 1st off, no Bane. I was all hyped up for this episode for his return and he only gets mentioned once. 1st she steals the Batcycle, now the Batbot. What's next? The Batboat? Get your own vehicles Batgirl! Joker had too many "buffed up" jokes. Like when he said: Come on Batsy, give me your lunch money," or "Without you around I'll be able to kick sand in Gotham's face." We get it, your buff! No Bane, Overused Joker, Batgirl This episode gets a 6/10  |
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 12, 2005 10:09:55 GMT -5
guys - how many times have I said that Bane would not be in season 3? well, its been a lot, lol. I'm not sure why you thought he would be.
This episode wasn't nearly as enjoyable as I thought it would be. Not my least favorite episode, but close.
7/10
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Post by vishman007 on Nov 12, 2005 10:58:01 GMT -5
Man I got up early just to watch Joker on bane serum, but I was a little disappointed. He wasnt nearly as cool as I thought he would be. And I agree with Batfan, too many strong jokes.
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Post by gotham95 on Nov 12, 2005 12:36:05 GMT -5
This episode reminded me of classic Joker stories that always has him using off the wall methods to wreck havoc.  |
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Post by thebatman63 on Nov 12, 2005 12:46:33 GMT -5
I love The Batman, but this one takes the cake! Come on guys, enough with the Joker already! Seems he's in every other episode! This one SHOULD have been Bane's second appearance. I like Batgirl, but she's getting a little tired too, the one liners are becoming too much. I too was looking forward to this episode and what a total let down! Honestly, this is the first episode I can actually say I thought absolutley sucked!!!  |
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Post by J-Man on Nov 12, 2005 13:24:30 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]I went back to bed after fifteen minutes of this. The Joker needs to be sedated. Either that or give him a decent episode, ala "Strange Minds" or "The Laughing Bat."
Roughly 4/10.  [/shadow]
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Nov 12, 2005 14:39:59 GMT -5
They explained that Bane has been in prison since his one appearance. Something that I want is to have the explanation of how Joker, Penguin, etc. continue to escape. Add Harley as having broken him out or maybe Dr. Strange. I assume that he would be going back to Arkham each time. It seems Bane is the only one who can't break out of prison. Bane isn't crazy so he wouldn't go to Arkham.
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 12, 2005 14:45:54 GMT -5
They explained that Bane has been in prison since his one appearance. Something that I want is to have the explanation of how Joker, Penguin, etc. continue to escape. Add Harley as having broken him out or maybe Dr. Strange. I assume that he would be going back to Arkham each time. It seems Bane is the only one who can't break out of prison. Bane isn't crazy so he wouldn't go to Arkham. Why is Penguin in Arkham anyway? He's not really crazy. |
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Nov 12, 2005 14:53:13 GMT -5
They explained that Bane has been in prison since his one appearance. Something that I want is to have the explanation of how Joker, Penguin, etc. continue to escape. Add Harley as having broken him out or maybe Dr. Strange. I assume that he would be going back to Arkham each time. It seems Bane is the only one who can't break out of prison. Bane isn't crazy so he wouldn't go to Arkham. Why is Penguin in Arkham anyway? He's not really crazy. Is he? I haven't seen him in Arkham. I was talking about Joker. |
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Post by General Grievous on Nov 12, 2005 15:36:21 GMT -5
I completely hated this episode. They keep using Joker and they only mentioned Bane one time. They don't really explain how exactly Joker got Bane's serum. Batgirl didn't really do anything she was just annoying in this episode. The dialogue in this episode was horrible. For once I actually thought that the bad dialogue was going to stop. Anyway, this episode rated 0/10.
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Post by DrGreenEvil on Nov 12, 2005 18:14:41 GMT -5
ok breaking the trend, not conforming,
I like this episode.
Now I will admit, we should have seen Bane in this ep, but Matt has been saying forever that Bane would not be making another appearance. I was thinking a buffed up Joker vs a buffed up Bane fight would have been awesome.
Now this ep did get a little corny, but not badly. In fact the jokers line of "give me your lunch money, Bats", was really funny.
When hes got batman tied up on his hit the bell thing and the first time it only goes up to mamas boy, that was great.
I like the batbot.
I really dont see why people are making a big deal about seeing Joker alot, He is Batman's #1, uber bad, villian. I agree with Joker and Dr Strange when they say that one could not be complete without the other. the Joker is Batman's big bad. IN fact looking through the listings at zap2it.com, they had "the laughing cats" schedualed to appear soon. I think this is the eo where Catwoman and Joker team up.
gonna stop now
DrGreenEvil
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 12, 2005 18:34:28 GMT -5
ok breaking the trend, not conforming, I like this episode. Now I will admit, we should have seen Bane in this ep, but Matt has been saying forever that Bane would not be making another appearance. I was thinking a buffed up Joker vs a buffed up Bane fight would have been awesome. Now this ep did get a little corny, but not badly. In fact the jokers line of "give me your lunch money, Bats", was really funny. When hes got batman tied up on his hit the bell thing and the first time it only goes up to mamas boy, that was great. I like the batbot. I really dont see why people are making a big deal about seeing Joker alot, He is Batman's #1, uber bad, villian. I agree with Joker and Dr Strange when they say that one could not be complete without the other. the Joker is Batman's big bad. IN fact looking through the listings at zap2it.com, they had "the laughing cats" schedualed to appear soon. I think this is the eo where Catwoman and Joker team up. gonna stop now DrGreenEvil "The Laughing Cats"? Matt, you know anything about this one? At least we see Catwoman again. TOO MUCH JOKER! |
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Post by Batdan on Nov 12, 2005 20:27:38 GMT -5
I'm gonna take a completely different tack:
Episode was OK. But here's what I don't like: Two weeks in a row we've gotten episodes that seemed designed to showcase specific toys that are coming out soon: the revamped Batmobile and the Batbot (yeah, we've seen it before but this was like a refresher).
Shows like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh were designed as commercials. And I know that when it gets down to it Batman is a business. I just expect better.
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 12, 2005 21:05:45 GMT -5
I'm gonna take a completely different tack: Episode was OK. But here's what I don't like: Two weeks in a row we've gotten episodes that seemed designed to showcase specific toys that are coming out soon: the revamped Batmobile and the Batbot (yeah, we've seen it before but this was like a refresher). Shows like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh were designed as commercials. And I know that when it gets down to it Batman is a business. I just expect better. Hmmm...or could it be that they base toys and release times off of episodes and when they'll air? How are you to know which is which Perhaps the toys are commercials for the show. |
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Post by batman1961 on Nov 12, 2005 21:12:27 GMT -5
with the joker being Crazy anything goes, they did mention he stole the Vanom from police lockup. Beefed up Bane aginst a Beefed up joker would have been awsome as they tear up the city and batman getting in the way.. maybe throw in a third villain trying to kill the Joker too..things would be really crazy. a 2 part story...
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 12, 2005 21:23:10 GMT -5
with the joker being Crazy anything goes, they did mention he stole the Vanom from police lockup. Beefed up Bane aginst a Beefed up joker would have been awsome as they tear up the city and batman getting in the way.. maybe throw in a third villain trying to kill the Joker too..things would be really crazy. a 2 part story... That would've made it better. Picture this: Beefed up Joker vs. Beefed up Bane vs. Batbot Batman IMAGINE THE CARNAGE!  HA HA HA! Whoa, where did that come from? |
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 12, 2005 21:27:11 GMT -5
with the joker being Crazy anything goes, they did mention he stole the Vanom from police lockup. Beefed up Bane aginst a Beefed up joker would have been awsome as they tear up the city and batman getting in the way.. maybe throw in a third villain trying to kill the Joker too..things would be really crazy. a 2 part story... I would've prefered another villain in the mix. I'm honestly getting a little dry on this Joker. They need to mix it up a little and let us miss him. Then, bring him back in style! |
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Post by ckrtech on Nov 13, 2005 0:44:26 GMT -5
Hey guys -
I thought the episode was okay. It had a few moments here and there - but let me approach it from a different angle:
I know that LoG gets inside info on upcoming episodes (and I try to avoid it because I have spoiler paranoia), but after watching the episode & reading comments I am really surprised at how much most of you appear to have written, watched, and experienced this episode before it aired.
Despite information regarding Bane's absense by /\/\att, it looks like a lot of people turned on their sets with eyes wide open - ready to see Bane again. Maybe you guys prefer to have the inside scoop before the episode airs...I am just pointing out that perhaps you would have liked the episode more if you went in "blind."
Now that said, I do think it was rather "shelled." (Not a lot of character interaction outside of Joker, Batgirl, and Batman. (Alfred and Gordon had what? 5 lines combined?) I did laugh out loud when Batman showed up in the new Batmobile, activated that side missile launcher and Joker said "OOoooooOOOooo!" Good timing on that one.
I would like to see more of the other villians involved. Joker (and really...Penguin as well) have been stretched out quite a bit for the series as a whole thus far. Batman vs. Dracula didn't help this out much. ("this" being reduced screen time for Joker and Penguin)
I'd like to see more of the Riddler & Ivy characters, myself.
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 13, 2005 0:50:00 GMT -5
I'd like to see more of the Riddler & Ivy characters, myself. There are at least two more episodes with Ivy in season 3, I believe. |
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Post by Dr. Baghead on Nov 13, 2005 2:50:03 GMT -5
I would've prefered another villain in the mix. I'm honestly getting a little dry on this Joker. They need to mix it up a little and let us miss him. Then, bring him back in style! I like Joker a lot (especially the Batman's version of him) but seriously, Batman has the greatest Rouge's gallery in comics using only his greatest foe is like going to Baskin-Robins and only ordering Tripple Chocolate... sure, it's the best there is, but soon you'll get tired of it, you'll combine it with other flavore (most likely Strawberry Chessecake: the Penguin of Ice creams) but soon you'll just get sick of it and never want to go to Baskin-Robins again... use someone else! There's no reason I can see this couldn't have been a Bane episode (I missed the first 10 minutes but the ending, Batgirl learning Brain can beat Brawn would have worked with Bane... granted a few carneval jokes shorter... and I guess he's not in season 3, but his powers are) or some other villian couldn't have been used (I think Ventriolquist becoming strong enough to stand up againist Scarface could have been fun) this is the first time I've seen a Season 3 episode so I also wanted to say: Batgirl reminds me of Birdgirl from the Harvey Birdman cartoon (the Attoney one, is she in the old one?) she's annoying and over eager.... and sounds kinda the same. I still give this episode 6/10... since I've given up on Saturday morning cartoons being anything other then toy commericals, all I want from the Batman is for it to have really kick-butt character designs and Venom Joker with his strongman style costume certainly was cool. |
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 13, 2005 10:39:42 GMT -5
I'd like to see more of the Riddler & Ivy characters, myself. There are at least two more episodes with Ivy in season 3, I believe. What about Riddler? |
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Post by Hush Riddler on Nov 13, 2005 18:56:06 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]Okay, I gave Joker the stupid bully jokes, but Batgirl is def. being over used. I was hoping to see like Bane HAS TO do something good or at least fight for the serum like instead of Batman/Batgirl having to have the showdown with him, I was hoping that Joker could faceoff with Bane at the end. BTW, Joker's got back-to-back episodes seeing as the next episode is called the laughing cats. ...Hmmm maybe its a remake of the super-awesome episode from BTAS, The Laughing Fish. Joker definatly needs to be cut back. GIVE THE RIDDLER SOME EPISODES FOR THE LOVE OF GOTHAM!!! I also hope for a return of Killer Croc to improve his character, or maybe the appearence of the Scarecrow. Maybe a Mr. Freeze episode that has to do with his devotion to his wife instead of freezing over Gotham. THAT'D BE NICE!!! STOP WITH SO MANY JOKER SHOWS!!![/shadow]
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Post by Batdan on Nov 13, 2005 19:02:15 GMT -5
I'm gonna take a completely different tack: Episode was OK. But here's what I don't like: Two weeks in a row we've gotten episodes that seemed designed to showcase specific toys that are coming out soon: the revamped Batmobile and the Batbot (yeah, we've seen it before but this was like a refresher). Shows like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh were designed as commercials. And I know that when it gets down to it Batman is a business. I just expect better. Hmmm...or could it be that they base toys and release times off of episodes and when they'll air? How are you to know which is which Perhaps the toys are commercials for the show. I think that's a chicken-egg debate, Matt. The point is that it feels like both episodes focused on items that are soon to be sold. It's corporate synergy, whichever way it works. It's like product placement in a film. But instead of, say, Pepsi, it's the characters or, in this case, vehicles and variants, that are being advertised. All of which brings us to a wholly different debate: Fans want variants and vehicles that actually appear in episodes. But do they want them presented so blatantly? |
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Post by /\/\att on Nov 13, 2005 21:09:16 GMT -5
Hmmm...or could it be that they base toys and release times off of episodes and when they'll air? How are you to know which is which Perhaps the toys are commercials for the show. I think that's a chicken-egg debate, Matt. The point is that it feels like both episodes focused on items that are soon to be sold. It's corporate synergy, whichever way it works. It's like product placement in a film. But instead of, say, Pepsi, it's the characters or, in this case, vehicles and variants, that are being advertised. All of which brings us to a wholly different debate: Fans want variants and vehicles that actually appear in episodes. But do they want them presented so blatantly? Well, it really all comes down to your personal perception. If you're uptight about it, things will stand out in any film, tv show etc. You can't get around the world without products...and tv doesn't exist without commercials in the first place. Thats the backbone of our economy...STUFF! I suppose my perspective is more broad, because I'm not just a fan of the toon, but a collector as well. Therefore, things like the new Batmobile..things that make actual sense in the scope of the show and events, are very cool to me! On the flipside, when the newer MOTU cartoon was on, they put the dragon walker toys in there, which was a poor example of product placement. That stood out as something that makes no sense and doesn't really need to be there. Thats the difference to me. Of course, MOTU, in all fairness, was based off of a toyline to begin with. |
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Post by Arkham16 on Nov 14, 2005 0:11:43 GMT -5
Well not to get off topic about the product placement fiasco of sorts but...
The episode was alright. Sure it wadn't the best but the way i see it, I need my bat fix anyway I can on saturday. Joker is a tad-overused but what do you expect? Batgirl needs to be developed more, and would it hurt to get a Gordon based episode around here?
Anyways...some flaws but the episode was a great escape from reality, at least for twenty minutes or so.
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Post by Batdan on Nov 14, 2005 8:19:14 GMT -5
I think that's a chicken-egg debate, Matt. The point is that it feels like both episodes focused on items that are soon to be sold. It's corporate synergy, whichever way it works. It's like product placement in a film. But instead of, say, Pepsi, it's the characters or, in this case, vehicles and variants, that are being advertised. All of which brings us to a wholly different debate: Fans want variants and vehicles that actually appear in episodes. But do they want them presented so blatantly? Well, it really all comes down to your personal perception. If you're uptight about it, things will stand out in any film, tv show etc. You can't get around the world without products...and tv doesn't exist without commercials in the first place. Thats the backbone of our economy...STUFF! I suppose my perspective is more broad, because I'm not just a fan of the toon, but a collector as well. Therefore, things like the new Batmobile..things that make actual sense in the scope of the show and events, are very cool to me! On the flipside, when the newer MOTU cartoon was on, they put the dragon walker toys in there, which was a poor example of product placement. That stood out as something that makes no sense and doesn't really need to be there. Thats the difference to me. Of course, MOTU, in all fairness, was based off of a toyline to begin with. Well, that is true: Regardless of your feelings on product placement, the writers on The Batman appear to be more adept at it than those of most other shows. |
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Post by ckrtech on Nov 15, 2005 18:37:17 GMT -5
/\/\att - (OT) - I really really miss the new MOTU cartoon.
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Post by wayneson on Nov 15, 2005 19:35:06 GMT -5
Hmmm...or could it be that they base toys and release times off of episodes and when they'll air? How are you to know which is which Perhaps the toys are commercials for the show. I would like to agree with you on that one, Matt, but the fact is, the toys are NEVER out before the show airs, at least in the US. If that were the case, we all would have had Catwoman and Freeze last fall, and we would have Clayface, Croc, Batgirl and Ivy now.  As far as "Brawn"....wow, just bad. Not good at all. "RPM" and "Brawn" are easily the two worst back-to-back eps to air so far IMO.  |
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Post by Batlaw on Nov 16, 2005 11:55:36 GMT -5
Well I finally got around to watching this last night (since I had actually remembered my VCR for once lol). Strangely enough this time I'm one that actually liked an episode more than other folks. Perhaps cause Ive missed so many episodes and therefore am not as burnt out on the Joker? At any rate, I wouldnt say this was the best episode or the best show IMPO, but I thought it was pretty fun. The usual corny bits of dialog and everything but I thought the ep overall was inventive and fun. More of a Batgirl ep really but thats ok since again Ive only seen her once myself.
I would like to get a better look at the new Batmobile but so far it looks pretty badazz.
Think I still prefer the original but I'm never going to complain about another Batmobile lol.
I dunno, my expectations for this show have dropped dramatically since it's debut and the less I have invested I am or the fewer hopes I have for it the more I seem to enjoy it.
I personally wouldnt rank this episode any lower nor (much) higher than any other... basically give it a 6 outa 10?
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