|
Post by /\/\att on May 21, 2005 1:58:46 GMT -5
Discuss the episode Riddled, featuring the 1st appearance of Robert Englund as the Riddler in The Batman! Look for episode writer Chris Yost to chime in and chat with you guys over the next few days here, so give him your feedback, but do remember to be respectful! 
|
|
|
Post by reideen1313 on May 21, 2005 9:35:20 GMT -5
YES!  Freddy's back!! Can't wait to see the ep!
|
|
|
Post by BullocK on May 21, 2005 10:06:36 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]What an episode! The Riddler is now more high tech and a much bigger threat. I know many had reservations about his new appearance, but it fits perfectly with his cyberpunk style. The relationship between Yin and Bats continues to get better. Yin for once is actually developing as a character, as compared to her first season one dimensional "The Batman is a vigilante" schtick.
The second season has kicked off with one helluva bang and I can't wait to see what Matsuda and company have in store for us.[/shadow]
|
|
|
Post by Batdan on May 21, 2005 10:15:20 GMT -5
I liked the episode, certainly better than last week's:
Thoughts:
-- I liked the take on the Riddler's whole "knowledge is power" motivation. A natural progression from what we've seen of the Riddler in the past.
-- I liked the slitherly, sinister concept. I'm very old school when it comes to the Riddler, so I was curious about how this treatment would come off. I think it worked, though I didn't buy into the whole henchman bit. This Riddler seems more like a goth loner.
-- The progression of Batman's and Yin's relationship is working well. She also has a couple of clues to Batman's identity now, broad as they may be.
-- Rojas is becoming more a caricature, though. He needs to be a little more nuanced, I think.
-- My biggest gripe about Season 1 was that too many episodes seemed to follow a formula. This episode, like the better ones from last season, did not. I liked the approach even if the pacing was a bit off at times.
|
|
|
Post by J-Man on May 21, 2005 10:29:10 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]So far, this episode ranks as the second best of the series, right behind the clayface two-parter.
I think the team nailed what the Riddler should be: A highly disturbing, intellectual and psychological villain. He seemed dangerous, perhaps for the first time ever. His riddles were actually interesting, too. Robert Englund's voice made the Riddler, imo. He was perfectly cast. Speaking of characterization, Batman and Yin's developing partnership is tieing into the series perfectly.
The animation has also gotten better. There wasn't a single choppy scene in the episode. Overall, I was extremely pleased with this episode. I give it a 10/10, a huge improvement over "The Cat, the Bat and the Very Ugly." [/shadow]
|
|
|
Post by TheJoker on May 21, 2005 10:30:18 GMT -5
His voice fits in so well. Loved it.
|
|
|
Post by Batdan on May 21, 2005 11:19:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with everyone who says the Riddler seems dangerous in this incarnation. The concept works.
And speaking of the quality of animation, there was one great shot when the Riddler was on the ground and our perspective was from under his chin. It was a great bit of storyboarding. Really well done.
|
|
|
Post by ProfessorHStrange on May 21, 2005 13:10:02 GMT -5
I loved this episode. Robert Englund playing the Riddler was awesome. This is my favorate episode so far in the series. The character of Det. Ellen Yin has improved greatly. RIDDLER RULES!!
ProfessorH !
|
|
|
Post by J-Man on May 21, 2005 16:53:37 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]This isn't really "Riddled" related, but the site says "Fire and Ice" is next to appear. But doesn't that leave out "Swamped," "JTV," "Meltdown," "The Butler Did It" and "Pets?" Or are they just going to air afterwards? And if they are, when?[/shadow]
|
|
|
Post by azrael24 on May 21, 2005 19:11:41 GMT -5
kids wb has a weird schedule. i dunno. but n*e*wayz, this was a great episode, i love the riddler's design. hes one of my fav villains. i loved the 20 questions thing
|
|
|
Post by Frosty Fries on May 21, 2005 19:52:00 GMT -5
I can say that this is another episode that didn't result in giving me a headache.  Why do I get the feeling that Detective Yin is going to become Robin in the future? You never know...see what they did with Bennett. ;D Cheers, Frosty
|
|
|
Post by reideen1313 on May 21, 2005 20:37:29 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that Detective Yin is going to become Robin in the future? You never know...see what they did with Bennett. ;D Either that or she could become another Sasha.
|
|
|
Post by /\/\att on May 21, 2005 21:18:13 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that Detective Yin is going to become Robin in the future? You never know...see what they did with Bennett. ;D Either that or she could become another Sasha. I do wonder about a possible romance option there..
|
|
|
Post by MasterofFear on May 21, 2005 21:30:30 GMT -5
i was very very CONTENT with the riddler. The big ? (question on the riddler) was solved and i am glad. i loved how he was so intelligent that every sentence was even a subliminal clue 4 the batman to solve and it had a great plot but... once again im not happy about one thing (not this episode th series in general) the episode villains barely ever give you an origin and if it is it's usually new and out of left field for the characters. i fell in love with the format of the old show. they would always have the origin in the episode or even a flashback....since power IS knowledge they should let us in with the vengeance or the lunacy of the creation and a fair cause for a villain to adapt such bizzare gimmicks. ? is awesome
|
|
|
Post by Arkham16 on May 21, 2005 22:03:04 GMT -5
This ep was fantastic. The riddler was friggin' awesome and friggin' sinister. Funny how he's defeated tho. I find Chief Rojas' stupidity to be a bit aggravating so i hope he's not gonna have much dialouge in future eps. The Yin/Bats relationship is blossoming greatly and makes some nice chemestry on scene. I wonder if there will be a The Bat, Cat, and Very Yin ep. Who knows?
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled Gremlin on May 21, 2005 22:42:20 GMT -5
Probably the most believably threatening version of the Riddler we've ever seen. Kudos!
|
|
Drizzt2218
Legions of Gotham Police Officer
 
Posts: 165
|
Post by Drizzt2218 on May 22, 2005 0:08:29 GMT -5
Would you believe I missed this one? Just my luck, too. This was one of my most eagerly anticipated episodes, but something came up early this morning. Based on all the good things I've read about this episode (and the obvious talent of the writers), I know I missed out on a great episode.
--Larry
|
|
CYost
Gotham Tourist
Posts: 3
|
Post by CYost on May 22, 2005 1:39:51 GMT -5
Hey, everyone. It's me, Chris Yost, co-writer of 'Riddled.' I'm glad / relieved to hear that you're all enjoying Riddler as much as I did. I couldn't be happier with how it turned out.
Thanks for the great comments - although I always welcome open dissension and hostility as well.
Chris
|
|
|
Post by /\/\att on May 22, 2005 3:50:29 GMT -5
Hey Chris! Its great to see you here yet again.
You guys did a great job with this ep. I was one of the few fans that felt Riddler looked good on paper prior to seeing Riddled. I honestly loved the design. You've managed to take a lame duck character, and make him a menacing threat. Not an easy task. I'm quite impressed with the pace of the episode, as well as Robert Englund's voice talent. My god that man can creep you out. He's the master.
all in all, one of my favorite eps thus far.
10 out of 10
|
|
|
Post by Batrez on May 22, 2005 3:52:19 GMT -5
hey chris..great job on the riddler episode..was wondering will we see new villans made by the mind of jeff and urself? I would love to see twoface or scarecrow in the future. But keep on the great job!!!
|
|
|
Post by wayneson on May 22, 2005 10:39:31 GMT -5
I will agree with everyone praising this episode; for me, it ranks in the top 3 or 4 in the series so far. Englund was fantastic - unlike the other voice artists who have tackled the established villians, he blows away his predecessors. Great stuff. I thought the quantity, complexity, and daunting logistics of the placement of the explosive devices and computer hardware went overboard a little bit; I mean, with no background for the character (the Wayne fortune explains the Batcave and equipment, for example) it was hard to comprehend how the Riddler pulls off these crimes in this scale, with only a handful of geeky-looking henchmen to assist him. Aside from that flawed plot point I thoroughly enjoyed "Riddled." 
|
|
Veil1
Gotham Tourist
Posts: 23
|
Post by Veil1 on May 22, 2005 14:37:01 GMT -5
Great Ep! I for one loved the Riddler design and Robert Englund really nailed it. Easily one of my favorite eps. As far as Rojas goes, anyone think his character is getting worse? His lines were stupid (as in made him sound like a moron, not bad writing). I think they are setting him up for getting fired so Commish Gordon can step in and take over.
|
|
CYost
Gotham Tourist
Posts: 3
|
Post by CYost on May 22, 2005 17:47:26 GMT -5
Matsuda = Genius.
Original characters - don't know. So many good existing ones. I'd end up creating like Chumpman or something. I have no problem playing with the existing Batman rogues.
I'm just happy to be here. I mean come on... Robert Englund? Sweet.
C
|
|
Drizzt2218
Legions of Gotham Police Officer
 
Posts: 165
|
Post by Drizzt2218 on May 22, 2005 17:57:10 GMT -5
Chris,
I have to agree with pretty much everything you just said. Matsuda's designs are indeed genius; just look at how fluidly most of them animate, too. The guy's very talented, and I've enjoyed seeing his career progress from drawing books like X-Factor to reimagining The Batman for today's audience of youngsters.
While an original villain or two could be interesting, I also have to agree that with such a large, and let's face it, downright cool cast of villains, it isn't necessary. If you can answer this, will you be writing any third season episodes? Plans to write for the show beyond the next thirteen?
Last, Robert Englund as The Riddler was a great casting coup. Though I've heard little of his voice work for the series, I have no doubt he's a great Riddler.
--Larry
|
|
|
Post by BatmAngelus on May 24, 2005 18:40:07 GMT -5
Hey guys, first LOG post (whooo!)
I've always loved the show, but "Riddled" has got to be my favorite so far. Very fun and exciting; easily surpassed the BTAS introduction to the Riddler in "If You're So Smart Why Aren't You Rich?" Best dialogue. Best plot. Heck, Best writing ever, you rock Chris!
|
|
|
Post by SRA on May 28, 2005 12:05:03 GMT -5
Hey all! really enjoyed this episode!This series gets better and better! the characters are developing and i think this series will become a classic! i love the "next generation" of batman! Bring on MORE!!
|
|
|
Post by /\/\att on May 29, 2005 5:47:31 GMT -5
Fun fact about this episode...Riddler's goons are all based on members of the Batman creative team....
........and they were designed by Thomas Perkins. He and Jose Lopez work with Matsuda on the various character designs. These three are the power team guys!
|
|
|
Post by HUSH on Jun 15, 2005 17:15:48 GMT -5
I just saw this ep, and The Riddler is now my favorite The Batman villain! Very cool episode, and creepy! 
|
|
Drizzt2218
Legions of Gotham Police Officer
 
Posts: 165
|
Post by Drizzt2218 on Aug 13, 2005 10:44:31 GMT -5
At last I finally managed to watch Riddled! And boy, this one did NOT disappoint. That's a hilarious fact about Riddler's goons...I had wondered why there was a female in there, but now I'll hazard a guess that the design was based off either Linda Steiner or Kimberley Smith. Riddler himself was flawless, from his obsession to his creepiness. This may be my favorite version of the character yet. Kudos to Mr. Yost and his writing partner on a fantastic script. The pacing was perfect. I had wondered how they would translate Riddler into the fastpaced world of The Batman, where anything longer than a minute of Batman or Yin sitting around working on a computer screen would be too long -- the problem's solved when the van is speeding Yin to her doom! This episode gets a 10/10 from me. One of the best episodes yet. I hope that we see more scripts from Mr. Yost in this upcoming season, and that Mr. Yost can peel himself away from "New X-Men" (congrats on that by the way -- comics seem harder to break into than animation!) long enough to continue writing for this series. --Larry
|
|
|
Post by ocre on Sept 30, 2006 9:53:46 GMT -5
I really liked the way they introduced the Riddler. The design and the animation were great. I just had a hard time swallowing the fact that he had a big-butt nec-plus-ultra high tech lair with machines and plateforms. It made it a bit too Batman Forever for me, a movie I truly despise. I really did like the interaction between Yin and the Riddler. It was a match made in heaven. I'm sure gonna miss Yin... I hear she doesn,t reappear after the ''Night and the City'' episode wich is LAME. I would really love another Riddler episode where ''Yinzy'' interacts with him. Since I watch every episode in French and then in english, I have to say I really HATED how they presented the Riddler in French. See ever since the 60's, The Riddler was presented in Québec as ''Le Sphinx'' (The Sphinx, the Egyptian statue semi god that would devour it's victim if they didn't answer his charades right'' but in France they named him ''L'homme-mystère'' (The Mystery-man''. So even if the voice acting is all great, we get the Riddler naming itself ''L'homme mystère'' wich is pathetic and disturbing to any Québécois. 
|
|