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Post by /\/\att on Jan 22, 2009 11:34:46 GMT -5
Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role (Heath Ledger)
Achievement in Art Direction
Achievement in Cinematography
Achievement in Film Editing
Achievement in Makeup
Achievement in Sound Editing
Achievement in Sound Mixing
Achievement in Visual Effects
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Post by whysoserious on Jan 22, 2009 14:10:08 GMT -5
I cannot believe Nolan gets no notice for his Directing. The whole project and every detail is his vision and he gets ignored.
burn baby burn
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Post by clownprince1 on Jan 22, 2009 15:12:41 GMT -5
I'm so happy for Heath but it makes me angry to see the film not be up for Best Picture, Best Director...
They'd rather nominate crap like Slum-Dog Millionaire, The Curious Case..., and just utter crap.
I knew though that this would happen....
The highest grossing film of the year, one of the most acclaimed films of the year and nothing..... The Academy is a JOKE!
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Post by snooch2dnooch on Jan 22, 2009 15:53:42 GMT -5
i understand no nominations for best picture, i wish they had nominated nolan for director, but what really pisses me off is no nomination for best screenplay.
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 22, 2009 16:01:52 GMT -5
Genre films always get snubbed for the quality nods. If Ledger hadn't passed away, I highly doubt we'd see him up there either. Sad but true.
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Post by blackraven87 on Jan 22, 2009 16:07:55 GMT -5
That does seem to be the extent of noms for genre films doesn't it then again Lord of the Rings got Best Picture & Director noms; I'm not sure whether those count as genre pictures or not. All I really expected was a possible nom for Ledger, so I'm happy the film earned others, but a Best Director nomination would of been nice. :/
Yeah Matt, I've wondered whether he really "earned" the noms or not. I think he did, but with those that matter I still wonder.
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Post by jef1963 on Jan 22, 2009 21:20:41 GMT -5
I truly believed that Heath would have still been nominated despite his untimely death.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 23, 2009 0:00:42 GMT -5
I truly believed that Heath would have still been nominated despite his untimely death. So do I. And I am sick of people saying that the only reason he's winning all these awards is because he died. When I was watching the movie, I didn't see Heath Ledger as the Joker, I only saw THE Joker. That's how deep he got into the character and why his performance is one of the best.
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 23, 2009 7:03:06 GMT -5
I truly believed that Heath would have still been nominated despite his untimely death. So do I. And I am sick of people saying that the only reason he's winning all these awards is because he died. When I was watching the movie, I didn't see Heath Ledger as the Joker, I only saw THE Joker. That's how deep he got into the character and why his performance is one of the best. No one is saying that Heath wasn't worthy of an Oscar...but how many movies come out in a year? Do you think that everyone that deserves an Oscar got nominated? Like all awards shows its mostly political. He got more attention because of his untimely passing and that raised the liklihood of his nomination. You don't get nominated if the performance isn't there..but you do get the extra attention.
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Post by batfan93 on Jan 23, 2009 8:09:19 GMT -5
Does The Academy actually take itself seriously? That's a joke to the movie! And he thought his jokes were bad...
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Post by dogchasingcars on Jan 23, 2009 11:26:09 GMT -5
I'm happy with Heath's nomination, and the fact that it was announced on the anniversary of his death.
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 23, 2009 15:04:48 GMT -5
I'm glad that it got more nominations than one. I do feel that it got snubbed as far as screenplay and director, but not having seen about all of the other nominations, I can't judge that too unfairly.
As far as Heath goes, I'd give it a 60/40 chance in his favor that he would have gotten nominated had he not died.
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Post by snooch2dnooch on Jan 23, 2009 15:24:30 GMT -5
Take a moment and read this blog from Themovieblog.com. I think this guy really puts stuff into perspective.
An Inconvenient Truth - The Dark Knight Didn’t Deserve The Nomination
The fallout has been swift and decisive. No more than 10 minutes had past from when the official 2009 Oscar Nominations where announced to when the backlash began. 90% of the backlash was over one category. The Dark Knight failed to garner one of the five coveted spots for a Best Picture nomination.
Anger hath swept the interweb all day. A lot of people are labeling the Oscars a “sham” and a “joke” for it’s failure to give the Christopher Nolan film it’s proper, in their eyes, props… and if I had a nickel for every use of the work “snub” I’ve read or heard today I’d be a rich rich rich man my friends.
BUt just as Al Gore had to lay an inconvenient truth on us about the state of the climate… so to must someone come out and do a very unpopular thing. There is another inconvenient truth that must be spoken. And that inconvenient truth is that The Dark Knight didn’t deserve to be nominated for best picture this year.
It’s a great film. I personally had it at #8 on my best films of the year list. Perhaps in another year with slightly weaker competition it would have been nominated. There is certainly a case for arguing The Dark Knight’s merits for deserving one. But when all is said and done, as good as The Dark Knight is (I personally like it more and more each time I see it), the fact of the matter is, in my opinion anyway, it didn’t deserve to given one of the top 5 spots, and it’s absence from the Nominee List is not only acceptable, but proper.
Now don’t get me wrong… I certainly wouldn’t have complained if it had indeed been given a nomination. As a matter of fact I half expected it to get nominated.
THE MOST OVERRATED MOVIE OF THE YEAR
Let’s get this straight first. Just because something is overrated does NOT mean it’s not good or quality. It just means that it gets more praise than it deserves… regardless of how good it is. The Dark Knight is a great movie… but right from the first weekend the hyperbole pouring out about HOW great it is was nauseating. It got so bad some people were calling it the greatest film of all time, or the greatest crime drama of all time and other various nonsense like that.
Right from the beginning it felt like us fan boys had been so desperate for so long to have one of OUR films (a genre film… a comic book film) be this good, that the moment such a film appeared we wanted to crown it Caesar and heap as many accolades on it as possible. The hype for the film took on a life of it’s own and grew bigger than the movie itself. So while The Dark Knight is great, it was nonetheless tragically overrated.
TANGIBLE WEAKNESSES
With the massive euphoria surrounding the film, people on a mass scale seemed to willfully blind themselves to the obvious weaknesses of the movie (yes, even the best movies have weaknesses). It seemed like no one would acknowledge some of the more blatant mistakes of the film. Thankfully, as with most movies, I’m finding that as more time passes, people are willing to own up to some of these weaknesses. But we’re still not there yet.
It’s almost as if people fear that if you admit or acknowledge one of your favorite movies has flaws… it somehow invalidates your love for that movie. I think that’s nonsense. I wrote the following back in July to illustrate this:
“Regular Movie Blog readers know how much I loved Transformers. I bloody flipped my lid for that movie beyond all reasonable limits. I said it was the most fun summer flick I’d ever seen and I said it was the best visual effects I’d ever seen. However, if you read my stuff, or if you listened to the Transformers DVD commentary that we did, you’ll know that I openly talk about the many weaknesses of the movie. The painful dialog in places, the poor choice in certain characters they used, the horrible lack of dialog between the decepticons (how can you have a transformers movie and only have 1 single line between Megatron and Starscream?!?!) Just because I acknowledges the film had a lot of flaws didn’t mean I couldn’t still love it”
The film was too long. All the mobsters besides the Joker himself were dreadful, the boat scene was so terrible it risked ruining the grittiness of the film, the way they wasted Two-Face (not Harvey) was a joke and Bale’s Batman voice got worse than it was in the first one. These are real issues that very few seem willing to acknowledge. Just a few too many things (again, in my opinion) to make it a “lock” for an Oscar Nomination.
WAS THE DARK KNIGHT PURPOSEFULLY SNUBBED BECAUSE IT’S A GENRE FILM?
Some people, including a bunch I really respect, are suggesting that The Dark Knight was purposefully snubbed by the Academy because it’s a “genre” film. The suggestion is that the 6000 voting members all somehow collectively decided they hate genre films and would not allow a genre film to get an Oscar nomination on their watch.
The problem with that logic is summed up in 5 simple words: THE LORD OF THE RINGS. The Lord of the Rings trillogy by any definition are a set of genre flims. The ultimate geek movies really. Wizards and trolls, swords and monsters, elves in woodland kingdoms with magic rings and potions. The Lord of the Rings films are geek genre films… and yet all 3 of them got nominated for best picture and The Return of the King tied the record for most Oscar wins by taking home 11 awards (winning in ever single category it was nominated for). So please don’t try to suggest the Academy is just out to snub genre films… because that’s just silly.
ONLY 5 CAN BE CHOSEN
The Oscar is a tough award to win. Over 4000 full feature length films were produced in the US last year… and of those 4000+ movies only 5 can be nominated. Add on top of that the fact that film is subjective and each member of the Academy will have a slightly different view than the next. There can be only 5… and The Dark Knight wasn’t one of them. All things considered, I don’t think it’s all that surprising, all that unjust and realistically not a “snub” in the least.
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jan 23, 2009 15:42:32 GMT -5
I do not mind at all that it didn't get the nomination for Best Picture. As I believe Kevin Smith said (I am not sure that it was Kevin Smith) "It is the Godfather II of superhero movies." Even so, if you put TDK up against The Godfather II, it will lose easily.
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 23, 2009 21:55:58 GMT -5
The movieblog article is right on in my opinion regarding the Dark Knight and the Oscars. Although I DO consider the Oscars to be a "sham" and a "joke" (and essentially a complete waste of time personally). Had things been different Dark Knight couldve won a best picture and by comparison it could be worthy to do so, but it didnt happen that way. Doesnt mean anything to me.
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Post by Jack the Skull on Jan 24, 2009 14:43:19 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]I agree with earlier comments.
At first I did not care that "The Dark Knight" did not get nominated, but when I heard "The Reader" (which in my opinion, was a total waste of time and money) got nominated instead,I was a little disappointed.
But Sadly, The Dark Knight was not the only movie that got snubbed. "The Wrestler" deserves some nominations![/shadow]
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Post by clownprince1 on Jan 24, 2009 18:13:40 GMT -5
Here's here.
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Post by doppelganger on Jan 29, 2009 20:18:09 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]I agree with earlier comments. At first I did not care that "The Dark Knight" did not get nominated, but when I heard "The Reader" (which in my opinion, was a total waste of time and money) got nominated instead,I was a little disappointed. But Sadly, The Dark Knight was not the only movie that got snubbed. "The Wrestler" deserves some nominations![/shadow] Agreed! The Dark knight wasn't the only movie snubbed! Finally I find a person in this forum who thinks outside the box! Jack, you seem to be very under appreciated!
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Post by Jack the Skull on Feb 2, 2009 20:19:33 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]Thanks...I guess.....![/shadow]
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Post by doppelganger on Feb 2, 2009 20:33:05 GMT -5
^ No problem! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Ralph Nigma on Feb 9, 2009 20:22:48 GMT -5
I don't know that I'd call the Curious Case of Benjamin Button "Utter crap." I think It's great that the movie recieved as many nominations as it did. Let's be proud of what the project is being recognized for instead of grousing about what it wasn't. I'm so happy for Heath but it makes me angry to see the film not be up for Best Picture, Best Director... They'd rather nominate crap like Slum-Dog Millionaire, The Curious Case..., and just utter crap. I knew though that this would happen.... The highest grossing film of the year, one of the most acclaimed films of the year and nothing..... The Academy is a JOKE!
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Post by /\/\att on Feb 22, 2009 21:18:24 GMT -5
The Oscars are on right now.
So far TDK has lost out on Achievement in Art Direction
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Post by /\/\att on Feb 22, 2009 22:09:48 GMT -5
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