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Post by batman1973 on Dec 19, 2008 20:13:36 GMT -5
kk.One More hint: It's a story penned by Michael Uslan and scribbled by Peter Snejbjerg(and, no, that's not a typo. that's the poor feller's last name)
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 19, 2008 22:39:19 GMT -5
well that gives the story as Batman: Detective No. 27. unfortunately i havent read that book so i have no clue of the answer. as i understand it though, its someone famous from throughout time. Bruce becomes the 27th detective. one of the first 26 was Teddy Roosevelt, one was Babe Ruth, one was Allan Pinkerton, etc, etc. so i dont know who was 4th and 25th though. maybe someone else will get it now that the story is known.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 20, 2008 1:09:43 GMT -5
Detective #1: Allan Pinkerton. Babe Ruth, however, only identified himself as "Player number 3" as that was the number on his All Star jersey, in response to Bruce Wayne calling himself "Detective #27" You did name Detecitve #4: President Theodore Roosevelt. So all that's left to identify is #25.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 20, 2008 17:16:47 GMT -5
Detective #25, an esteemed member of Scotland Yard, and noted forensic physician, Dr. Alfred Pennyworth.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 20, 2008 20:14:18 GMT -5
how was that story? is it worth checking out?
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 20, 2008 20:48:05 GMT -5
I thought it really well done. I just checked it out from the library a few days ago.Without going into great detail, it really puts the "Batverse" on it's ear. I want a copy for my own personal library. What's great about it is that it combines actual historical figures i.e. Allan Pinkerton, Babe Ruth, Teddy Rossevelt, and Franklin Roosevelt, and mixes them with the world of the Dark Knight.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 21, 2008 1:43:40 GMT -5
i might check that out. there are a few Elseworlds that i have really enjoyed reading.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 21, 2008 11:50:17 GMT -5
Some are better than others. So, what else?
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 21, 2008 12:08:13 GMT -5
Some simple ones:
1. What is Alfred last name? 2. What was Bane's first appearance? 3. The title of the first batman story? 4. What three people created "The Joker" and what two people revised him?
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 21, 2008 14:13:59 GMT -5
1.Alfred was known by several names. Originally just Alfred, One of his first last names was Jarvis, then changed to Beagle. Beagle became E-2 Alfred, while E-1 was named Alfred Thaddeus Crane Pennyworth. 2. Vengeance of Bane. Rose to fame in the "Knightfall" series 4. Joker was created by Jerry Robinson, Bill Finger, Bob Kane, and revised by Neil Adams and Denny O'Neil. couldn't tell ya #3. Sorry.
Also, of note, Alfred wasn't always the "Gentleman's Gentleman".He was at first a comic relief, rather portly, and fancied himself amature sleuth. In this instance, I say thank the Good Lord for reboots. I like this modern "Alfie"
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 21, 2008 16:14:36 GMT -5
Haha, all three correct. Anyone for #3?
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 21, 2008 19:34:32 GMT -5
the title of the first Batman story is "The Case of the Chemical Syndicate". it was one a few of the stories that were in Batman's first issue, Detective Comics # 27.
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 21, 2008 19:47:29 GMT -5
Correctamoondo
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 21, 2008 19:56:54 GMT -5
1. Dick Grayson has been engaged twice. who has he been engaged to?
2. Who sabotaged the trapeze wires that caused Dick's family to fall to their deaths?
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Post by coliv1977 on Dec 21, 2008 21:22:17 GMT -5
2. Who sabotaged the trapeze wires that caused Dick's family to fall to their deaths? Even I know this and I've never read a Batman comic in my life...Tony Zucco
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 21, 2008 22:03:43 GMT -5
Dicks been engaged to Barabra and starfire i believe.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 21, 2008 22:25:15 GMT -5
^man, yer good.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 22, 2008 1:15:54 GMT -5
2. Who sabotaged the trapeze wires that caused Dick's family to fall to their deaths? Even I know this and I've never read a Batman comic in my life...Tony Zucco incorrect. Zucco hired someone to sabotage the wires. he didnt do it himself. Zucco shot Mr. Haley himself, but the sabotage was not done by him. Dicks been engaged to Barabra and starfire i believe. correct.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 22, 2008 4:43:34 GMT -5
Actually, he is correct. The Pre-crisis names Tony Zucco as the one who kills Dick's parents. In the post crisis Dark Victory, Zucco again is alone in killing the Graysons. You might be thinking of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder story that names "Jocko-boy" Vanzetti as the deed doer.
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 22, 2008 10:41:50 GMT -5
Yeah, i second that. Tony zucco was the one who sabotaged the wires
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 22, 2008 10:49:39 GMT -5
Actually, he is correct. The Pre-crisis names Tony Zucco as the one who kills Dick's parents. In the post crisis Dark Victory, Zucco again is alone in killing the Graysons. You might be thinking of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder story that names "Jocko-boy" Vanzetti as the deed doer. All-Star Batman isnt canon, its elseworlds. it takes place on Earth-31. i also had said in an earlier post than unless otherwise noted all of my questions refer to New Earth continuity. the Pre-Crisis history isnt included. Dark Victory also has a ton of continuity problems anyway, as Loeb included characters that he wanted in the story, but really shouldnt have been, namely the majorty of the GCPD. he also killed some characters that werent supposed to die that early. lastly, you never see Zucco sabotage the wires. we are lead to believe that he did it in that story. a story that was written by Jeph Loeb, a mystery writer who likes to leave things to the imagination. and Dark Victory wasnt the official Robin origin story either. that was the first time that Loeb was writing the character and didnt consult the guy who wrote the definitive Dick Grayson, Chuck Dixon. as per regular New Earth continuity, Zucco himself did not sabotage the wires. he hired someone else to do it. he's responsible for the death of the Grayson's, but the question asks for the saboteur, not who's responsible for killing them.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 22, 2008 14:05:59 GMT -5
OK, maybe you should expand beyond your "new earth" only rule, unless you feel like re writing the entire Internet on Robin 1 history which names Anthony Zucco as the murderer of the Graysons. Even the DC Comics website names Zucco.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 22, 2008 14:13:49 GMT -5
Also, I want to thank svengali1337 for starting this post. I have learned a lot. BTW, svengali, should we just limit the trivia to just Batman, or do you want to expand to the rest of the DCU? jlavia I'm sure can keep us busy other chars.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 22, 2008 14:39:41 GMT -5
Also, remembering that the char. of Robin is pushing 7 decades himself. jlavaia, I would caution you that Robin Year one or Batman year 3 may in the end not be considered cannon, due to the almost 70 year accepted story is Tony "Fats" Zucco was the lone killer of the Graysons.
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Post by svengali1337 on Dec 22, 2008 15:40:44 GMT -5
No problem bat, i had no idea that a little question i posted (witch turned out to be all a misunderstanding on my part) would turn into something this big. It really wouldn't matter it we expanded. Although I'm not to good on things that do not connect to The bat in some way, but it would be cool to hear about stuff that i haven't before and it would most likely get my interest leading me to go check it out, so please do. I too love expanded my knowledge like this, I've learned alot of Bat-Facts.
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 22, 2008 16:48:01 GMT -5
yeah this is a great topic thats become the hottest thread on the site. i'm all for expanding to other characters. it'll help me to learn some stuff that i may not know.
and the definite Robin origin story, which is the only official Robin origin thats accepted was written by Chuck Dixon. yes, Tony Zucco did kill the Graysons. you guys have missed the question though. it asks who actually sabotaged the wires. Zucco didnt do it himself. and if you think about it logically, how would he even know what to cut and how to rig it so that the line breaks at the right time and that no one notices it happening? he wouldnt. it makes sense that he hired someone to do it who knew about that sort of thing. Dixon didnt erase anything. he expanded upon what had already been stated. Zucco was never once shown doing the sabotaging himself in any comic at any time. it was only stated that he was the one who did in a few stories. Dixon expanded on that and actually showed who did it and why, and kept it that it was Zucco responsible for their deaths.
and Robin: Year One isnt an origin story. its a tale of Robin's first year as being Robin and deals with alot of his training and whatnot. Batman: Year 3 wasnt an origin story either, it dealt with Zucco getting out of jail and some kind of crime notebook that he kept.
the official Robin origin is in Robin Annual # 4. in it we learn that one of Dick's friends in the circus, a man named Rutledge, was the saboteur. he was hired by Zucco to do that.
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 22, 2008 17:18:45 GMT -5
DAMN! U da man!
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Post by coliv1977 on Dec 22, 2008 18:04:22 GMT -5
Even I know this and I've never read a Batman comic in my life...Tony Zucco incorrect. Zucco hired someone to sabotage the wires. he didnt do it himself. Zucco shot Mr. Haley himself, but the sabotage was not done by him. . I had a feeling after I posted that, that that was a trick question. Oh well, depending on what universe I was right!!
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Post by batman1973 on Dec 22, 2008 18:39:54 GMT -5
OK, expanding the DCU, Name all the Green Lanterns, past and present living or dead of Sector 2814.( a Hint: there are at least 15)
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Post by jlavaia on Dec 22, 2008 19:34:44 GMT -5
OK, expanding the DCU, Name all the Green Lanterns, past and present living or dead of Sector 2814.( a Hint: there are at least 15) - Hal Jordan - Kyle Rayner - Guy Gardner - John Stewart - Abin Sur - Alan Scott - Jade - Charlie Vicker - Yalan Gur - G'Nort thats 10. i know there was also a chick that had the ring for like an issue but then she gave it up because she didnt want to die because of her kids or something stupid like that, i forgot her name though. EDIT: i just remembered another 2, Starkaor, he was the lantern before Abin Sur and then Waverly Sayre who was the lantern before Starkaor. so thats 12, plus the female lantern (if she even counts). i'm going to try and back track even more.
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