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Post by beyondreal on Mar 3, 2005 13:50:31 GMT -5
ok if current news can be believed in begins 2 will be joker and begins 3 will be two-face but the question is what other villians would u want and how would they fit in?
for me i would like to see begins 2 start with batman fighting posion ivy to get a cure to save harvey dent like the animated series episode setting up that bruce is friends with harvey. would also like to see harley quinn as head doctor at arkam as and im guessing here that since the 1 in begins is the scarecrow that he wont be still worknig there in begins 2, and if the joker is main villian to ahve him at some point in arkham and harley freeing him.
Ratchel i really would like to change from being a throw away character as she is right now in begins into being something like eather the reaper or the phantasm and have her dad killed and her comnig bck to gotham to get revenge and of course getting some of her ideas from seeing batman in begins, could even tie in with joker being one of the 1s she has 2 kill, think this would be kool as it really would make batman question if what he is doing is right.
i guess thats about it but also if joker survies in begins 2 to have it show harley falling more in love with him and maybe in begins 3 showing batman goin after her at the start of the movie.
well now ur turns.......
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Post by gotham95 on Mar 3, 2005 14:06:17 GMT -5
Good ideas. I think WB should hire you.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 3, 2005 17:43:12 GMT -5
wasn't catwoman gonna be in the next movie?? i hope she is, maybe w/joker. poison ivy sounds good too, so does two face. what about man-bat? it would be cool to see real life man-bat instead of animated and comic. if they do i hope it he looks real and not so computerized. lady shiva would fit in begins 1 cause of all the ninjas and stuff. why isnt talia in begins 1? i thought she was always w/ras al ghul.
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Post by Josh on Mar 3, 2005 21:43:54 GMT -5
wasn't catwoman gonna be in the next movie?? i hope she is, maybe w/joker. why isnt talia in begins 1? i thought she was always w/ras al ghul. [glow=blue,2,300]The general plans I have heard are leaning heavily towards Joker in 2 and Two-Face in 3. I really don't see them putting Catwoman in 2 because there is still a sour taste towards the character in the public view becuase of the Hallie Berry fiasco. As for Talia, something I wouldn't mind seeing in a sequel is to introduce Talia early on in a film and then reveal her to be Ra's Al Ghul's daughter half way into the film as there are a lot of people that arent to familiar with Al Ghul's history.[/glow]
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Post by HUSH on Mar 3, 2005 22:01:53 GMT -5
This is a wierd thought, but what if the Katie Holmes character is secretly Talia?
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Post by Josh on Mar 3, 2005 22:17:14 GMT -5
This is a wierd thought, but what if the Katie Holmes character is secretly Talia? [glow=blue,2,300]That's impossible, she's really the new Red Hood.[/glow]
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Post by twistedangel9 on Mar 4, 2005 3:26:03 GMT -5
Well, as i've said before, I think: Since we know Zsasz is a cameo in BB, I wish they would add a Gordon subplot wherein bringing in Zsasz would lead to him becoming Commish. The sequel will deal with Zsasz's connection to the Falcones (whom we see in BB) and Bruce's old chum Harvey Dent, being Gotham City's DA. the prime choice to persecute Zsasz and the Flacone family. In the ensuing court trial, more and more of the Flacone crime family is brought to light, leaving Zsasz on the back burner. We all know about the incident, Falcone is cornered and hurls acid on Harvey's face, scarring him deeper then flesh. Dent is lost in the frenzy and Bruce knows no other means to help but to use his guise as Batman to hunt down his old friend the only way he can, by following the trail of bodies... All this is seen only in the presence of Bruce, keeping him the central character. I love to know what you think
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 4, 2005 17:35:03 GMT -5
This is a wierd thought, but what if the Katie Holmes character is secretly Talia? at first i thouht she was going to play talia and then i found out she was like a student or something. she might be, u never know
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Post by Ralph Nigma on Mar 7, 2005 21:20:42 GMT -5
OK.
Joker. Jennifer Tilly or Fairuza Balk as Harley Quinn. Ron Perlman as Killer Croc. Angelina Jolie as Catwoman.
That's my wish list.
Not that it matters much.
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Post by Ralph Nigma on Mar 7, 2005 21:21:56 GMT -5
And if Katie Holmes's character is really Talia, I quit.
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Post by Josh on Mar 7, 2005 23:30:03 GMT -5
Well, as i've said before, I think: Since we know Zsasz is a cameo in BB, I wish they would add a Gordon subplot wherein bringing in Zsasz would lead to him becoming Commish. The sequel will deal with Zsasz's connection to the Falcones (whom we see in BB) and Bruce's old chum Harvey Dent, being Gotham City's DA. the prime choice to persecute Zsasz and the Flacone family. In the ensuing court trial, more and more of the Flacone crime family is brought to light, leaving Zsasz on the back burner. We all know about the incident, Falcone is cornered and hurls acid on Harvey's face, scarring him deeper then flesh. Dent is lost in the frenzy and Bruce knows no other means to help but to use his guise as Batman to hunt down his old friend the only way he can, by following the trail of bodies... All this is seen only in the presence of Bruce, keeping him the central character. I love to know what you think [glow=red,2,300]TEXT[/glow] [glow=blue,2,300]That's is a very good take twistedangel, I wouldn't mind seeing it. [/glow]
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Post by twistedangel9 on Mar 8, 2005 2:20:13 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]TEXT[/glow] [glow=blue,2,300]That's is a very good take twistedangel, I wouldn't mind seeing it. [/glow] Thank you, I'm glad someone commented on it
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Post by /\/\att on Mar 8, 2005 2:32:10 GMT -5
Well, as i've said before, I think: Since we know Zsasz is a cameo in BB, I wish they would add a Gordon subplot wherein bringing in Zsasz would lead to him becoming Commish. The sequel will deal with Zsasz's connection to the Falcones (whom we see in BB) and Bruce's old chum Harvey Dent, being Gotham City's DA. the prime choice to persecute Zsasz and the Flacone family. In the ensuing court trial, more and more of the Flacone crime family is brought to light, leaving Zsasz on the back burner. We all know about the incident, Falcone is cornered and hurls acid on Harvey's face, scarring him deeper then flesh. Dent is lost in the frenzy and Bruce knows no other means to help but to use his guise as Batman to hunt down his old friend the only way he can, by following the trail of bodies... All this is seen only in the presence of Bruce, keeping him the central character. I love to know what you think that would make for an excellent film.
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Post by Batboy on Mar 8, 2005 18:41:32 GMT -5
Well, as i've said before, I think: Since we know Zsasz is a cameo in BB, I wish they would add a Gordon subplot wherein bringing in Zsasz would lead to him becoming Commish. The sequel will deal with Zsasz's connection to the Falcones (whom we see in BB) and Bruce's old chum Harvey Dent, being Gotham City's DA. the prime choice to persecute Zsasz and the Flacone family. In the ensuing court trial, more and more of the Flacone crime family is brought to light, leaving Zsasz on the back burner. We all know about the incident, Falcone is cornered and hurls acid on Harvey's face, scarring him deeper then flesh. Dent is lost in the frenzy and Bruce knows no other means to help but to use his guise as Batman to hunt down his old friend the only way he can, by following the trail of bodies... All this is seen only in the presence of Bruce, keeping him the central character. I love to know what you think That would make an excellent sequel
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Post by TheQuestion on Mar 8, 2005 18:46:58 GMT -5
though I doubt it would work, I'd really like to see clayface, either that or a animated movie with clayface...how I miss him
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Post by twistedangel9 on Mar 8, 2005 19:16:30 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! I would like to see Clayface, but like Alex Ross's new version i'd like to see him more as a "be anyone" guy then a hulking mass (even though that might be a good climax...).
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 8, 2005 19:21:35 GMT -5
OK. Joker. Jennifer Tilly or Fairuza Balk as Harley Quinn. Ron Perlman as Killer Croc. Angelina Jolie as Catwoman. That's my wish list. Not that it matters much. Angelina Jolie would be great as catwoman and ron perlman would be great as killer croc
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Post by ICECREAMAN on Mar 9, 2005 6:18:55 GMT -5
How about Solomon Grundy? I'm not sure who would play him. It would have to be one big mutha!
Solomon Grundy, born on a Monday...
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Post by Josh on Mar 9, 2005 11:49:20 GMT -5
Solomon Grundy, born on a Monday... [glow=blue,2,300]....Chrisitened on a stark and stormy Tuesday....[/glow]
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Post by LORDFALLENELDOR on Mar 10, 2005 1:18:52 GMT -5
I'd love to see John Lithgow as Victor Fries. He definitely has the range as an actor to portray the character realistically and non comedic...
I would want the next film to focus on Bruce's relationships to other people both as Bruce and Batman. Selina Kyle/Catwoman and Harvey Dent/Two Face would be perfect criminals to show both sides of the Bat.
I think Joker should be in there, but I wouldn't want to see his origin on screen again, or see him spotlighted as the main adversary of the second film. He should provide a supporting role, use that as an opportunity to show Joker's burgeoning role as Batman's main adversary. That aspect of there relationship could be used and built upon for a later film, hopefully him killing Jason Tod years later. That would make for a good film! I'd also like to see penguin as supporting character as crime boss, or as owner of the Ice Berg Lounge.
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Post by ProfessorHStrange on Mar 11, 2005 13:58:32 GMT -5
I along with everyone else wants to see Joker and Two-Face brought backin the sequels. Two-Face needs to be done right no offense to Tommy Lee Jones, who is great actor, but that was not Two-Face in Batman Forever and needs to be done right.
I'd like to see new villians appear such as Professor Hugo Strange and Rupert Thorne (something kind of based on the classic Englehart/ Rogers, and the Gerry Conway story of the 1980's). Other new villians... Black Mask, Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Hush ( cannot use the whole storyline and characters but using the Elliot story and tweaking a little would be nice), Mad Hatter, Spellbinder, The Monk (early Batman villian Bats vs Vampire),Clayface/ Matt Hagen, and Black Spider.
ProfessorH!
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Post by Dr. Crane on Mar 14, 2005 1:41:48 GMT -5
I along with everyone else wants to see Joker and Two-Face brought backin the sequels. Two-Face needs to be done right no offense to Tommy Lee Jones, who is great actor, but that was not Two-Face in Batman Forever and needs to be done right. I'd like to see new villians appear such as Professor Hugo Strange and Rupert Thorne (something kind of based on the classic Englehart/ Rogers, and the Gerry Conway story of the 1980's). Other new villians... Black Mask, Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Hush ( cannot use the whole storyline and characters but using the Elliot story and tweaking a little would be nice), Mad Hatter, Spellbinder, The Monk (early Batman villian Bats vs Vampire),Clayface/ Matt Hagen, and Black Spider. ProfessorH! I can't agree more about that two-face comment. Two face is more calm and collected like a lawyer(or district attorney for that matter ) not Wild and crazy like for instance the joker. In forever it seemed to me like they were just trying to re-create a joker type character instead of actually going with the comic books. Anyhoo, Hugo strange would be a good pick, otherwise I've always said that Mad Hatter could look good in film. I mean because he preys mostly on children, and in the real world thats such a real thing.
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Post by andyh40 on Mar 15, 2005 12:57:22 GMT -5
Using The Joker as the main villain in a sequel is a 'no-brainer'. He has always been Batman's main villain, and he's a character that can be as comical as he can be menacing. I'm not one for mixing 2 arch villains in one movie. What I would like to see is in the beginning of the story, Batman's on the trail of a secondary villain like Cluemaster, or Firefly, and the first 10 minutes or so would have a short battle, which could lead into the main story.
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Post by Ralph Nigma on Mar 16, 2005 0:12:39 GMT -5
Ben Kingsley as Mr Freeze.
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Post by TheQuestion on Mar 27, 2005 11:10:06 GMT -5
Ben Kingsley...wow...that's not a bad idea!
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Post by SRA on Mar 28, 2005 6:10:44 GMT -5
WHATEVER THEY DO, DONT GO CAMP!!! thats when it all went wrong, i hope Harley and ivy are in a movie together and dont get killed off!!
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 30, 2005 8:51:14 GMT -5
first of all great idea twistedangel,secondly JOKER or Two Face for the sequel preferably Joker but who will play him? Catwoman-doesnt have the clout to be a major movie villian and hasnt had for some time now Freeze-too conflicted unless its tweaked to hav nora die,but if noras alive- no good Clayface-strays too far from nolans approach I think but would be cool Ivy-could be cool but would have to be in tandem with another villian Bane-Highly possible should be brought in by thornes mob to eliminate bats goin to need a wrestler to play him though!! Riddler -again highly possible,schumacher had a great idea of him being bruces business rival that could work again Zsasz-like Twistedangel said have him in the tie up with the falcones also give him that madmans strength he has Croc-great potential here if done subtledy and thats my 2 cents
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Post by freizerader on Mar 30, 2005 9:18:36 GMT -5
IMHO , Nolan seems to want to rewrite the Batman saga as events that could happen in our reality.Batman is after all just a man in body armour with a lot of money and the time to do what most of us might do to fight injustice in our world. Saying that,I think that the sequel villians will be(if Nolan directs it) like Scarecrow/Crane, mere mortal men with sadistic or power tripping egos.Nothing sci-fi like a man whos half crocodile or a hundred-fifty year old zombie.Two-Face and Penguin would be the outmost fringe in this revision.Joker,if he appears, would probably be re-thought all the way back to his origins.Nolan has Ras Al-Ghul but there isn't a mention of him being thousands of years old,just been around and in control of his assasins for awhile.If Nolan gets to continue his franchise then we probably won't see the likes of Killer Croc,Solomon Grundy,Joker(as we know and love him) or Mr. Freeze.so i think the next villian will be one of the gang bosses or Riddler.I would like to see Anthony Hopkins ala Hannibal Lecter's cool,calm demeanor flesh out the riddler as a business rival of Wayne Industries/Enterprise(what ever it is now).Any thoughts?
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 30, 2005 10:31:26 GMT -5
yeah the cool calm riddler would be excellent as I stated for a brucie business rival maybe an old college friend or something.BUT if they change the JOKER drastically for this franchise IMO they will be shooting themselves in the foot.also casting the Joker WILL be difficult,but for the calm cool collected Riddler?Ed norton all the way baby
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Post by freizerader on Mar 30, 2005 10:54:01 GMT -5
yeah Ed Norton would be great for a younger Riddler,I completely agree!I think Mark Hamill now would be good for the Joker.I just read somewhere that there is planned three movies with joker in the seqond and two-face in the third.how 'bout Tom selleck as two-face?
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