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Post by Longbowhunter on Jun 18, 2005 18:12:09 GMT -5
hmmm....I cant really see him physically playing the Joker but he could do it acting wise.He has done GREAT in all the various animated forms and really seems to understand the character.I cant really see the WB picking him but they could definitely do worse(like the rumour I heard of Adam Sandler)
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Post by Batdan on Jun 18, 2005 19:53:10 GMT -5
I think it'd be great but I have my doubts it will happen. I also have my doubts about Adam Sandler getting it. That would only signal a turn for the camp, which they seem desperate to avoid at this point.
They've also made a point of casting actors instead of "movie stars" with the exception of Katie Holmes.
I think it's too early to say and I think it's likely to be someone who would be a somewhat unconventional choice. Just a hunch.
I also wouldn't bet the farm it WILL be the Joker in the next film.
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Post by J-Man on Jun 18, 2005 20:56:47 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]I think Mark Hammil's a great voice actor, but other than "Star Wars," I have never seen him play a good physical role. It would be too risky, imo.
Plus, I'd like to see this new era of Batman continue. Mark Hammil did his time, and will forever be remembered for it, Joker wise. Idk who should play the Joker, there are a lot of choices (it comes down to a select few for me, but I'm sure they'll choose some one out of left field), but I hope it's someone who hasn't had any experience in the role before. That makes it much more interesting.[/shadow]
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Post by Longbowhunter on Jun 18, 2005 22:29:58 GMT -5
I also heard Jude Laws name was being thrown around....he's an interesting choice.I could see it.
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Post by TheKingpun on Jun 18, 2005 22:37:39 GMT -5
Jude Law has been rumored but not as Joker. I heard he's being tugged between Harvey Dent and General Zod. I doubt he'd play both. Anyway, I think Mark Hamill could do it really well. I seem to remember hearing about him doing a lot of the physical acting while recording his dialogue for the animated series. Anyway, I'm sure they'll be able to get the Joker down perfectly no matter who they choose.
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Post by /\/\att on Jun 18, 2005 22:37:51 GMT -5
I personally am rooting for Crispin Glover for Joker.
I wouldn't be upset with Hamill. He has the voice, and that counts for a LOT with us btas fans.....I think looks can be handled with make up and time.
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Post by reideen1313 on Jun 18, 2005 22:53:31 GMT -5
I think looks can be handled with make up and time. There'd be a lot of spackling compound needed to fill in the pits in his cheeks though, prior to make up. Last I saw him was in Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back and he wasn't looking the greatest then. I think Hamill should stick to either voice work or figure skating. Maybe both.
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Post by BatmAngelus on Jun 18, 2005 23:43:49 GMT -5
Hmm, had some trouble voting. I clicked No, but it kept saying "You didn't decide what you wanted to vote on" Great Joker voice, but definitely NO for live action. The man's at least 55 years old and looks like it. A majority of the fans want somebody around Bale's age that could take Bale on physically, a quality closer to the comics and less like Nicholson's Joker (who was more than a decade older than Keaton and got his @$$ handed to him at the end of B89). He also looks nothing like the Joker in any incarnation. Sure, they could go for heavy prosthetics, but I think it would just be easier for them to get someone who looks closer to the comic book counterpart and has the acting ability to pull it off. Lachy Hulme is a decent actor, but not Joker material (as I've seen in Enter the Matrix). Crispin Glover has the look, but that's about it. Based on his acting, I think he would've made a cool Scarecrow and would make a cool Alberto Falcone (The Long Halloween), but I can't see him be hyper enough or loony enough to take on the Dark Knight. Robin Williams is, like Hamill, too old and looks nothing like the Joker. Adam Sandler...would be great as Two-Face or Ventriloquist...for a Batman spoof!! Personally, I'm hoping for Adrien Brody
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Post by BullocK on Jun 19, 2005 1:18:16 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]Hamill's got the voice, but there is no way I would want to see him square off against Bale. I'll second Matt's suggestion for Crispin Glover. He's tall, lanky, and best of all..a bit off of his rocker in real life. [/shadow]
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Post by batman1973 on Jun 19, 2005 1:39:19 GMT -5
Why not have Gentleman Jack reprise the role. I for one thought he did a fantastic Joker. Jack certainly has that murderous look to him that the Joker needs. Age shouldn't be the issue. Mark Hamil, a great cartoon Joker, but as others have said, not a good live Joker. Give it back to Jack!!!
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Post by Batdan on Jun 19, 2005 19:29:41 GMT -5
I could deal with Jude Law or Adrien Brody.
But suggesting Crispin Glover is inspired (if highly unlikely).
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Post by J-Man on Jun 19, 2005 19:58:20 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]For me, I'd prefer Adrien Brody or Crispin Glover. I could also accept Steve Buscemi or Lachey Hulme, who have been rumored as previous top contenders for the role. I can't think of anybody else. [/shadow]
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Post by Batlaw on Jun 19, 2005 20:18:31 GMT -5
Unlike most, although I wouldnt Nec. classify him as "the right choice", I would have no real problem W/ Hammill being given a fair chance. He did well as the Trickster on The Flash and you cant argue the voice. My only concern would be the age factor. Jack Nicholson was good but purely do to his abilities as an actor and not because he was right for the role. I dont know anything about Lachy Hulme so who knows? He is supposedly high on "the list". Personally, I'm rather burnt out on hearing about Crispin Glover. I think he would work and is certainly creepy enough, but like Jude Law, I just cant see either as having enough "energy". I agree Jude Law would probably work better as Two-Face. More subtle and reserved intensity. I personally dont care for Adrian Brody. He may fit ok physically but out of place otherwise? Dear Lord NOT Adam Sandler or anyone in that vain. I'm sure they will go with someone we probably havnt even thought of yet.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 19, 2005 20:34:13 GMT -5
Lachley Hume is the forerunner at the moment.supposedly they have been looking at casting the sequels since February since WB wants these up and running quickly. I myself would have no problem with Brody,Hume or Glover-but I have the feeling we are looking for a Joker we would recognise where Nolan isnt.dont screw this up man he is the ONE villian change doesnt suit.
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Post by jasontodd2 on Jun 19, 2005 20:49:47 GMT -5
I have the same feeling as /\/\att and Bullock, but I will say that Crispin Glover is a solid lock for The Joker in the next Batman movie.
On a side note though, would anybody be extremely upset or bummed out if Jack Nicholson reprised his role and played The Joker again?
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 19, 2005 20:56:06 GMT -5
On a side note though, would anybody be extremely upset or bummed out if Jack Nicholson reprised his role and played The Joker again? Yeah i would because I want to see something different.dont get me wrong I LOVED Jacks Joker he nailed him IMO-but he is too old now for the Joker.at the oldest Joker should be in his early forties for these movies.Ditto for hamill but i want to see a new joker and Im very excited about the prospect. when someone posts pics of whoever as the Joker in 18 months or so I will be excited as hell.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 19, 2005 20:57:59 GMT -5
I will add this though.any prospective Joker will have Jack Leering over their shoulder because his Joker is the onscreen one to beat-- hands down
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Post by PunkRockGirl on Jun 19, 2005 21:07:49 GMT -5
I personally am rooting for Crispin Glover for Joker. Crispin Glover! He'd be fantastic! I could also seem him as a really eccentric Riddler. Mark Hamill knows the character very well, his Joker voice & laugh can't be beat. He was the perfect animated Joker. I just don't know if he'd be scary though. In addition to the theatricality (which Hamill can do) there's something very indimidating and scary about the Joker (which I'm not sure I can see Hamill doing). Jack Nicholson was born to play the Joker and was awesome, but I agree, he's gotten on in age now. After all, it has been sixteen years since he first played the role. He'd be perfect in a 'Dark Knight Returns' adaptation though. I think anyone who plays Joker in a future movie will have to do a somewhat different take on the character in order to avoid comparisons. I suspect Nolan will probably go for a very realistic and disturbing portrayal of the character. I imagine Joker will be someone who will scare the hell out of viewers, but in darkly funny way. - PunkRockGirl-
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Post by BatmAngelus on Jun 19, 2005 21:42:36 GMT -5
No to Jack Nicholson and Crispin Glover (sorry, fellas that I'm so negative in this thread).
Nicholson is too old and already associated with the previous series. Putting him in this would make people think that we're trying to remake B89. Nicholson's had his run as Joker, let someone else have a chance. I also would like somebody capable of taking Batman on in a fight and Jack Nicholson couldn't even fight Keaton in B89 (although it was obviously written to be that way).
Crispin Glover has the perfect look. Acting-wise...I'm pretty hesitant. He'd do great fight scenes and all, but what about the core Joker scenes? He would've been great as the Scarecrow, a quiet outcast who strikes terror in others. From what I've seen of Willard, he would've been a good Master of Fear...but barely showed enough crazy hyper side to convince me of Willard. As Joker...he needs that insane hyper edge. He needs to be acceptably crazy, like laughing like a hyena as he runs away from Batman. I just can't see Glover do that because his roles are always of somewhat quiet, reserved (but deadly in some cases) characters. He needs to be able to be maniacal and insane- freaking out and cackling away for the most part-while still being believable and not looking like he's making a fool out of himself. IMO, that's key to casting the Joker.
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Post by wayneson on Jun 20, 2005 13:25:48 GMT -5
Whoever plays the Joker should be an actor that can disappear completely into the role. This is one character that I do not want to see and think "_____ is doing a great job as The Joker" - I really would like to see an obscure, beginning actor or someone that does not have an established, onscreen persona to have to forget about. With that in mind, I think Brody would be great, as well as somebody like Paul Bettany.
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Post by BatmAngelus on Jun 22, 2005 0:32:18 GMT -5
I swear, it doesn't let me vote at all. My vote's for "No," so consider that the majority, I guess. Anyways, for you pro-Hamill people, here's a manip I FOUND at the SuperheroHype boards (I DIDN'T do it) None of the following is meant to be disrespect toward those who want him in the role, but, I personally don't think that looks like the Joker I want to see at all. He looks his age and by the time the sequel's out, he'll be around 60, which is even older than when Nicholson had his stint. I don't think having him go through facelifts and losing weight would be that great of an idea just to have him as Joker when there are younger actors who already look like the character that could give memorable performances. Plus, it would be just plain weird for me to hear the BTAS Joker voice in live action. The last reason I'm against it is that he won't want to do it. When asked on BTAS Vol. 2 why he liked doing voice acting, his number one reason was that "People can't see you!" He really stressed that and was passionate about it. I really don't think he'd want to do it in live action. There's plenty of talent out there. Let someone else have a chance at playing Joker.
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Post by /\/\att on Jun 22, 2005 4:20:55 GMT -5
No to Jack Nicholson and Crispin Glover (sorry, fellas that I'm so negative in this thread). Nicholson is too old and already associated with the previous series. Putting him in this would make people think that we're trying to remake B89. Nicholson's had his run as Joker, let someone else have a chance. I also would like somebody capable of taking Batman on in a fight and Jack Nicholson couldn't even fight Keaton in B89 (although it was obviously written to be that way). Crispin Glover has the perfect look. Acting-wise...I'm pretty hesitant. He'd do great fight scenes and all, but what about the core Joker scenes? He would've been great as the Scarecrow, a quiet outcast who strikes terror in others. From what I've seen of Willard, he would've been a good Master of Fear...but barely showed enough crazy hyper side to convince me of Willard. As Joker...he needs that insane hyper edge. He needs to be acceptably crazy, like laughing like a hyena as he runs away from Batman. I just can't see Glover do that because his roles are always of somewhat quiet, reserved (but deadly in some cases) characters. He needs to be able to be maniacal and insane- freaking out and cackling away for the most part-while still being believable and not looking like he's making a fool out of himself. IMO, that's key to casting the Joker. I agree about NO Nicholson..but keep in mind that Glover IS an actor. Just because he plays reserved roles, doesn't mean he's not capable of pulling off joker. I don't think when we saw Star Wars we thought to ourselves "hmmm that luke skywalker would voice a good joker someday!"...but low and behold.....hence the nature of acting.
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Post by MyGenerationToys on Jun 22, 2005 12:07:45 GMT -5
All the actors mentioned are great choices.
I would love to see Mark Hamill, if he can do it right. If he can play the part and not look out of place with a younger cast, fine let him play it... there's no question that he has the voice. Personally, this is my "fan favorite" choice.
Adrien Brody, has the potential of pulling off the look. I just wonder if he can be intimidating and menacing enough to make you believe that he is a psychotic killer. He has too much of a babyface to me. Kind of like Elijah Woods.
Crispin Glover definitely has the physical traits and I would venture that he would take the role and run with it. He would be an excellent choice, he's not a cover boy actor and would get lost in the part.
Someone at another site mentioned Johnny Depp and I say forget it. I personally have never liked him in anything other than "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?" I did not think he was anything, but average in "Pirates..."
If Adam Sandler is seriously considered, I don't know that I could take it seriously if he gets it. He's is humorous, but not worthy of playing a strong character in the Joker.
There, that's my take...
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 22, 2005 12:12:14 GMT -5
I cant stress this strongly enough-NO COMEDIANS FOR THE JOKER- No Sandl;er,Carrey,etc etcm NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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Post by Batrez on Jun 22, 2005 12:27:22 GMT -5
I would love to see Johnny depp to play joker..he has that skinny joker look.
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Post by Disgruntled Gremlin on Jun 22, 2005 17:19:44 GMT -5
I'm sincerely hoping an unknown gets chosen- I think it's much cooler, and much more believable, when a face you're not already attached to steps into the role- it creates further surreality. Also, I agree that Nicholson and Hamill are too old (sorry guys!). It'd be hard to believe someone between 50 and 60 would make it through a confrontation with Bats at his prime (please, no arguments about Ras Al Ghul- you konw what I mean).
That's not to say that even at her age, Michelle Pfeifer wouldn't have been a trillion times better than Halle Berry, but that's a topic for another day...
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 23, 2005 15:52:28 GMT -5
hopefully so man-a comedian being cast as the Joker would be awful for the Credibility of the sequel and character
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 12, 2005 21:11:29 GMT -5
He's got the voice of the Joker , but not the look of the Joker
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Post by greg on Jul 12, 2005 22:28:26 GMT -5
maybe with the right makeup. i liked his voice, but i thought the lines and stories of TAS were too over the top, and not dark or serious enuff.
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Post by the_killing_joke on Aug 2, 2005 12:22:15 GMT -5
I personally think that he is too old for the part. I also think Jack Nicholson was too old by the time he played the part. (If he had been cast circa One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest then he would have been the ultimate choice) Having Hamill provide the voice whilst a more suitable actor brings the physicality to the role would be a bold move but I doubt that would happen. My list of candidates that seems to be growing day by day are Matthew Lillard, Richard E. Grant, Crispin GLover, Hugo Blick and now Rhys Iffans (Not sure if that is how you spell his name)
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