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Post by BatmAngelus on Jan 20, 2006 0:10:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure that I have any interest in seeing Robin in this series of films at this time or any other time for that matter. I'm just a little nervous about them getting it right I can definitely understand the nervousness. But I have faith in Nolan and Goyer, however. They took some unpopular ideas (i.e. Joe Chill, multiple villains) and made them work well in a new context. The fans here and in other places have come up with decent ideas to make him work and no doubt professionals like Nolan and Goyer can come up with even better ones.
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Post by DBrennan3333 on Jan 20, 2006 3:23:36 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]I think, if Robin is introduced, they should wait until the fourth movie. I think this new Batman franchise should be taken in trilogies, with 1-3 about Batman's uprising in Gotham, and 4-6 expanding on that with Robin and possibly Batgirl by the 6th or 7th installment.
I think that Robin's origin needs to be done right, and there's really nothing that tells me Nolan can or can't do it. I think it needs to be faithful to the comics, and the first Robin has to be Dick Grayson. [/shadow] You have more patience than I do....I can't fathom plotting now for a movie that wouldn't appear for another decade. As far as the B:TAS Robin, as I recall, that was taken quite closely from Year Three, which ran in 'Batman' #436-439. (Which also featured a very subtle cameo by a Tim Drake as a very young child, his first appearance.)
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Post by jabsy on Jan 21, 2006 15:53:41 GMT -5
Im sorry guys but i would say no to robin period!.
I have always seen Batman as the Dark, Brooding one man show. The addition of robin has always been hard for me to take.
The picture of batman crouched on a gargoyle in the dark of night.....Alone....has always been my understanding of him.
I like the darkness of him, the mystery, and the human side of him which is his loneliness.
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Post by BatmAngelus on Jan 21, 2006 18:04:59 GMT -5
I understand what you're talking about, but, from what I can see, Batman can still be very dark and distant with Robin around just like he is with Alfred and Gordon around. Adding Grayson doesn't necessarily mean that Batman's going to become lighter or suddenly become more open about himself.
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Post by jasontodd2 on Feb 4, 2006 20:53:04 GMT -5
I just watched Sky High and there is an actor in the film who would make a good Teenage Robin. His name is Steven Strait, he played Peace & War in Sky High, and just turned 20, if they want to go with an older Robin in his teens this kid could pull it off, if they do the film within the next 4-5 years.
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Post by All Star Batman on Feb 4, 2006 21:06:26 GMT -5
Hmmm.... This kid looks like he could pull it off. Can you make a manip picture of him with Robin mask or something?
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Post by blinker on Feb 25, 2006 13:38:18 GMT -5
I watched Sin City recently and I thought "maybe Nolan should turn a story like TLH into a movie, including DV" but that would include Robin in the cast.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2006 11:58:29 GMT -5
I would like to see Robin in the new movies. I think Nolan could pull it off very well. If they use a Dark Victory type story it could be great. I like Batman as a loner and with a partner. I think he works well in both ways. Robin should be Tim Drake if not Dick Grayson. I think they would skip the whole Jason Todd thing.
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Post by RJ on Mar 12, 2006 15:13:02 GMT -5
I'm really uneasy about having Robin in the second...if they're going to do it, do it in the third, imo. But I agree with others here, if it's to be done, Nolan and Goyer are the ones to do it.
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Post by enchantaurora on Mar 21, 2006 18:12:29 GMT -5
I also think Hoechlin would be a good choice, but again too old. I also liked his acting in 7th Heaven, though it is a lighter role. If this was happening now... Arrrgghh! His name is Steven Strait, he played Peace & War in Sky High
I think you mean Warren Peace?
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Post by All Star Batman on Mar 21, 2006 18:21:24 GMT -5
I think Robin would have to work in the third or fourth. And he should be played by an unknown since he probably won't show up for like 10 years. And I think that when Robin does enter, the movie should be called "Batman and Robin, The Boy Wonder". Adding The Boy Wonder would lead people away from that piece of crap Batman and Robin.
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Post by arkhaminmate on Mar 24, 2006 11:48:30 GMT -5
I would like to see Robin in the new movies. I think Nolan could pull it off very well. If they use a Dark Victory type story it could be great. I like Batman as a loner and with a partner. I think he works well in both ways. Robin should be Tim Drake if not Dick Grayson. I think they would skip the whole Jason Todd thing. I agree BatDan. Nolan & Goyer in my opinion should introduce Robin in #2 with a small cameo, like maybe just seeing a Flying Graysons poster somewhere in town. & then have him as a major character in #3
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Post by jasontodd2 on Apr 1, 2006 22:12:31 GMT -5
I have been thinking a bit on Robin and come up with a few names to play the Boy Wonder if he is thrown into the Batmovies. If he is introduced in the second film I think they should go with Ricky Ullman, he looks the part and is just 20. But if they wait awhile and don't get Robin into the franchise for 5 years I would go with this actor Daniel Magder, he is currently 11yrs old and has already been in a bunch of movies:
Daniel Magder
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Post by All Star Batman on Apr 2, 2006 0:14:12 GMT -5
Robin should be a kid like he used to be in the comics! I don't want them to cast someone in their twenties. It's just not going to be right, and I think we'll see alot of angry Robin fans. Robin should be played by an unknown 12 year old when he gets in this.
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Post by enchantaurora on Apr 3, 2006 11:06:07 GMT -5
I have to agree with all star batman. Though I would love to see robin soon (not 2 but soon) we should pace ourselves, let the series build, not rush the climax, etc. etc.
It would do no good to have Robin come in at age 16 and up. That was one of the many problems wiht B & R. How is batman goinng to trainn someone who is mostly grown already? Dick has to already see Bruce as a father figure before he finds out who Bruce really is, and that takes time, years even. Plus Bruce is still young. He's not ready for a ward. He'd be more like a big brother.
Honestly I think they should do a whole film with Dick Grayson having entered the picture as a 13 year old (it seems like only a year but the difference between 12 and 13 years old are significant enough to make a difference in the character) not as Robin. I think that would be awesome for #3. Bruce has grown and we would have ample time to see their relationship grow, the difficulties they have, and how Dick has effected his life.
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Post by All Star Batman on May 6, 2006 14:12:20 GMT -5
I know we think Robin should show up in 3 or 4, but I think 4 would be the best bet. Why? Well, Nolan said that as long as he was on board, Robin would not be in the series. But for all we know, he and Nolan are signed on for up to the 3rd. So let's consider the first 3 movies "Year One". Now let's say 4-6 are "Year Two" and like Frank Miller said about All Star Batman and Robin, this is his sequel to year one. So in movies 4-6, it should be about how young Dick Grayson lost his parents, was taken in by a stranger, and how he becomes the Boy Wonder.
What do you think?
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Post by filmationbatmanfan on Aug 20, 2006 15:04:52 GMT -5
As far as I'm concered, Robin may not be in any Batman movies anytime soon, but I also believe that he won't be out of them for good. Robin WILL return to the movies someday. I am a fan of both Batman and Robin. The Robin that I've always been a fan of is Dick Grayson as a teenager. Media wise, this is what I grew up with. Plus in the comics, I liked it when Robin was a teenager and most preferably, Dick was in college and was the Teen Wonder as opposed to the Boy Wonder. If Robin is in a Batman movie, it most likely will not have any involvement from Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale. They are like Tim Burton and Michael Keaton, all Robin haters. A Batman movie with Robin introduced would need to be directed by a Batman fan who loves BOTH characters and will STILL keep Batman as the Dark Knight without softening him up too much. That was the waterloo of Joel Schumacher. The best references I can give a director for this type of film, the Gotham Knights episodes of Batman: The Animated Series and the All Star Batman and Robin comics. When it comes to Batman hype, there are usually two stages 1: Dark Knight 2: Dynamic Duo. We're in the Dark Knight stage for a while and don't get me wrong, I enjoy Batman's solo adventures, but I also enjoy the Batman and Robin stories as well. Good balance. Batman wise, there would probably be a new actor in that film. And I also agree that Robin needs to be an unknown. Same with whichever actor would succeed Christian Bale as Batman. But again, I repeat that the director best suited for a new Batman movie with Robin needs to be a fan of the comic and of both characters. If SpiderMan can be directed by a SpiderMan comic fan like Sam Raimi, then a Batman movie with Robin could have the same thing. As for Robin's origin, I feel that Dick Grayson should be introduced as a kid, just like the comics in one movie. In another one, he's be in training and in correspondence with Batman from the Batcave in another movie and finally, would be suited up as Robin in a third. And by that time, Dick would be a teenager. I cannot see him as a 12 year old kid kicking bad guys butts like the comics, but I can see it between the ages of 16 and 18. Robin's trilogy would be like that of Anakin Skywalker's age wise. Like I said, Robin may not be in movies for quite some time, but one day, Robin will return. Mark my words. Cheers.
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Post by All Star Batman on Dec 24, 2006 14:48:30 GMT -5
I think I may know the best person to be Dick Grayson/Robin: Tristan Lake Leabu.
Think about it, by the time they put Robin in the new franchise, the kid will be old enough for the role. Genius.
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Post by jasontodd2 on Dec 24, 2006 15:43:47 GMT -5
I think I may know the best person to be Dick Grayson/Robin: Tristan Lake Leabu. Think about it, by the time they put Robin in the new franchise, the kid will be old enough for the role. Genius. He would be a great choice, he is about 5-6 now, and if Robin is thrown into the mix in say 5-7 years he would be perfect, but if they wanted to use Robin within the next 2-3 years I would go with Daniel Magder
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Post by twistedangel9 on Dec 25, 2006 23:25:51 GMT -5
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Post by jasontodd2 on Dec 26, 2006 13:10:34 GMT -5
^ Not bad choices
Another kid or just out of his teens that I thought would have made a great Dick Grayson/Robin would have been Ricky Ullman
He just turned twenty, and if Robin was thrown into the mix now, I could still see Ricky Ullman pulling it off...
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Post by twistedangel9 on Dec 26, 2006 20:59:45 GMT -5
Cool beans.
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Post by Young Justice on Mar 13, 2007 22:10:38 GMT -5
Hi, all.
I'm new here at LoG. I would like to say that I am a Robin supporter. I think he riches the Batman mythos and should be introduced in this new franchise by the 3rd or at least the 4th movie.
My ideas for the character:
- It has to be Dick Grayson with the Dark Victory origin
- I think he has to be older, in his late teens or early twenties. I think Alex Pettyfer could be a good cast choice if he dyed his hair black.
- The suit should be very similar to Batman's. An armor with a cape so he could "fly" also. The basic element would be the Robin bird opposed to the Bat, so the black color of Batman would be replaced by an all dark red suit, with a bird insignia on the chest.
- The mask would be zorro style with more fortification, similar to the one Cyclops used in the X-men movies. The zorro style is not all that realistic, but the other option would be a mask like the Robin from Kingdon Come, which I don't think was good visually. And besides, the hair loose makes Robin looks younger and hipper.
- Robin's personality would be driven and serious but more lighthearted than Batman. More optimistic. The cool thing about Robin is that his origin is so similar to Batman's and yet so different. Batman had to wait several years to deal with his anger. Robin started dealing with it right after his parents' deaths.
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Post by Blackgate on Mar 13, 2007 22:29:58 GMT -5
Welcome Young Justice! If you have any questions fee free to PM me, i am also a strong Robin supporter and think the Jeff Loeb storyline should be inspiration for robin and Two Face. The costume seems to similar to that of B&R, though there is really not an easy way to do it without it clashing with Batman's costume. Im in favor of a more bullet proof vest material with a similar design to Nightwing and maybe if designed well Tim Drake.
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Post by Young Justice on Mar 14, 2007 9:34:32 GMT -5
Welcome Young Justice! If you have any questions fee free to PM me, i am also a strong Robin supporter and think the Jeff Loeb storyline should be inspiration for robin and Two Face. The costume seems to similar to that of B&R, though there is really not an easy way to do it without it clashing with Batman's costume. Im in favor of a more bullet proof vest material with a similar design to Nightwing and maybe if designed well Tim Drake. Altough I thought Robin costume in B&R was awesome, one of the few things they have done right in that movie, I don't think a two color suit would be ok for the realistic universe of Nolan's Batman. I was suggesting an all dark red suit. Batman's suit is black because of the bat motif. Robin's suit will be dark red because of the Robin bird motif. I've read somewhere that an all dark red, blue and green suit blend better with the dark than an all black suit. It appears that the ninjas use the dark color suits instead of the all blacks. But I'm not sure about it. I can be completely wrong.
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Post by ocre on Apr 6, 2007 1:29:09 GMT -5
I just love it without the goofy characters in the Nolan universe right now. Just don't get Batgirl or Robin in please...
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Post by robertwayne on Apr 6, 2007 7:14:14 GMT -5
I could see Nightwing but, not Robin. Like it was stated previously, it has never translated well at all. If it was darker and R rated maybe but, a pg-13 Robin always sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2007 17:36:37 GMT -5
I think they should finish three Nolan/Bale films without Robin. Then they should make a television show, in the Nolan style, and introduce Robin. In a television series, you can take more time to develope a character and tell more of the Batman and robin stories.
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Post by BruceBatman on May 22, 2007 13:59:49 GMT -5
Whew! When I saw this topic I was like NOOOOOOOOOOO! Because I like solo Batman! I don't want anyone to play Robin!
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 3, 2008 13:49:45 GMT -5
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