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Post by The Detective on Aug 20, 2004 14:23:50 GMT -5
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Post by J-Man on Aug 20, 2004 15:32:50 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]That was a nice rundown, thank you for posting the link. My only gripe is that it seems they aren't using Nora in Freeze's background, but they are instead making him a diamond and ice obsessed criminal. Odd... [/shadow]
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Post by re on Aug 20, 2004 16:18:54 GMT -5
Very cool run down, and is it me, but could the detective that is bryce's friend, could he turn into Two-Face, I mean I know he is not Harvey Dent, but his description, sounds like Harvey, I mean he doesn't mind Batman, and sees not in black and white ? I don't know, sounds a little like Harvey Dent to me. But like I said cool run down.
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Post by Schemes on Aug 20, 2004 16:29:58 GMT -5
Meh, pretty nice. I like the descriptions, and the pics (can you say "save as") and I love Catwoman even more now that I have a still pic (full) Woo! And re, good idea on Two-Face, I hope not though, I don't want screwed up origins. Penguin I like a lot more now, and Freeze's design is still sweet, but his description kind of dissappoints me. Then again, he might just not want everyone knowing about Nora (she might not even show in the toon, but she's there), and Bats wouldn't even know all there is about his villians at this point anyway. Joker is awesome, I think that pic has a little mis-color though (no biggie), just no green fingernails/no green tongue, and the pants are black like in every other pic. I am LOVING this cartoon even more by the day! Woo! And does anyone else think that the batarangs are just a tad to bulky as seen in the pics on the page BEFORE the descriptions? The WB March Preview had the same batarang design, but smaller, what happened?
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Post by The Detective on Aug 20, 2004 16:56:45 GMT -5
Yeah Penguin's quite young in this Show Also i think they are making Freeze more simple because this is a child based show, which is a bit annoying. I like how catwoman's whip looks like her tail, has that been done before? Loving the designs though
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Post by BaTfReAk25 on Aug 20, 2004 17:42:21 GMT -5
thanx for the heads up matt
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Post by J-Man on Aug 20, 2004 19:05:09 GMT -5
thanx for the heads up matt [shadow=purple,left,300]His name is Aidan. [/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 20, 2004 19:50:42 GMT -5
The Batman / Bruce Wayne Only in his third year, pre-"Bat Signal," The Batman currently operates as a vigilante. Under the cape and cowl can be found a younger Bruce Wayne in his 20s. The media is more likely to catch him courtside at a Gotham Gators game or strapping on a helmet to drive his own racecar for a charity than in front of City Hall cutting a ribbon. But don't confuse the swinging bachelor persona for the real Bruce -- he's intense, driven and completely focused on his life's mission to serve as the Dark Knight. Aided by technology he's secretly developed -- including the operating system known as the Bat-Wave -- and driven by the childhood memory of the loss of his parents, Batman takes to the streets in order to bring Gotham's new breed of super villains to justice.Alfred (Alastair Duncan)
Within the confines of his role as butler to the Wayne estate, Alfred raised Bruce and, on occasion, continues to provide him with veiled wisdom. Like The Batman, Alfred is younger, in his early 50s, and more physically robust, yet not quite the unflappable Alfred of usual Batman lore. The cape and cowl are new enough that Alfred is still growing accustomed to them. Thus, we witness his genuine concern for Bruce's safety when Bruce goes up against the likes of Joker, Penguin, Mr. Freeze and the will of the Rogues Gallery.
Catwoman Catwoman, a.k.a. Selina Kyle, is Gotham's greatest cat burglar. She gets her name not only because of her profession but also because of her cat-like qualities. Cunning, stealthy and mysterious, she is neither super hero nor arch villain. Unlike most of The Batman's foes, Catwoman is not out for mass destruction or domination of Gotham. She's in it for the money...and the thrill of the hunt. She has even been known to do the occasional good deed -- when it's in her best interest. Despite The Batman's efforts to capture her, Catwoman seems to enjoy her encounters with the Dark Knight, proving to be a flirtatious rival.Chief Rojas
For Chief Rojas, The Batman is nothing less than a black eye to his police force. Believing there is no room for vigilante justice in Gotham, Rojas has made capturing the Dark Knight a top priority.Detective Ellen Yin Detective Ellen Yin is as physically adept as any male cop she knows. Ellen may be new to the Gotham beat, but she's no rookie. Previously head of her department in Metropolis, she transferred to Gotham looking for new challenges. She¹s a career cop at the top of her game, true blue and by the book. Not warming to Bruce Wayne so easily, Ellen doesn't have it out personally for The Batman. It's simply cut-and-dried. As a vigilante, he's breaking the law. Not seeing past his swinging billionaire persona, she despises his seemingly silver-sthingy arrogance.Detective Ethan Bennett If Bruce Wayne could call anyone his best friend, Ethan Bennett is it. They've been friends since high school. Whereas his partner, Detective Ellen Yin, sees things in black and white, Ethan sees the grey in most everything -- and is more willing to allow The Batman to co-exist with the Gotham P.D. In fact, he often finds himself pondering if this caped vigilante he is chasing is actually helping the city.Joker The arch nemesis of The Batman, Joker is a maniacal harlequin whose bizarre appearance and unerring instinct for the absurd have earned him a reputation as "the most dangerous criminal in the annals of crime." For Joker, each transgression he commits is an elaborate joke in which he tries to leave his victims dying with laughter - literally. More than any other enemy, Joker becomes inextricably linked to The Batman, as the crazed clown's plots begin to take increasingly more personal tolls on our crime fighter.Mayor Grange Grange, the mayor of Gotham, is a close friend of the Wayne family. A shrewd politician, he nonetheless buys into the irresponsible bachelor image Bruce cultivates, creating some grief for the young billionaire.Mr. Freeze Mr. Freeze is a villain who uses his ice technology as a means of stealing the objects of his passion: the rarest, most valuable diamonds. Formerly Victor Fries, Mr. Freeze is a ruthless criminal who The Batman thought had met his demise in a cryogenic accident that reduced the villain's body temperature to that of neither living nor dead, creating a walking cryogenic monstrosity! Ice, in all forms, has become his obsession -- along with making Gotham Mr. Freeze's very own Kingdom of Ice!Penguin Oswald Cobblepot, like Bruce, is an ostensible billionaire in his 20s -- but the similarities stop there. Unlike Bruce, "Ozzy" is rude, selfish, arrogant and homely -- a grotesque penguin-bodied character -- essentially, the "anti-Bruce!" While Gotham's other villains may have it out for The Batman, Cobblepot is unique in that his scorn is often directed at Bruce Wayne, who serves as a constant reminder of everything Cobblepot is not. Employing the use of highly trained birds and an arsenal of deadly umbrellas, Penguin, as he calls himself, is determined to rebuild the Cobblepot fortune by criminal means.
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Post by OneDisturbedSOB on Aug 20, 2004 20:07:42 GMT -5
I wonder why they didn't include BANE. Isn't he supposed to be in the show's debut?
I LOVE the way the show looks. Everything looks nice, and clean. My only gripe is that these pictures make me want to see the rest of the characters. We still haven't seen any pictures of Riddler, Scarface and Firefly (I know we've seen the figure, but we haven't seen him in animated form).
I also want to know why The Joker's tongue is green??
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Post by Robin on Aug 20, 2004 20:37:41 GMT -5
Amazing!! After looking at those pics it makes me even more excited about this show!
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Post by TJM on Aug 20, 2004 23:35:34 GMT -5
I love these designs but a couple of things bother me. First of all how could Detective Bennett have been Bruce's friend since High School, wasn't Bruce traveling abroad during his teen years. And another thing is, I don't see Gordon or Harvey Dent in that cast of characters, I think this show is missing out on a Golden opportunity to show the development of the relationship between Batman, Gordon, and Dent in their early years together. Hopefully they'll both show up later. I'm still really looking forward to this show, I hope it lives up to expectations, lord knows the creators have some big shoes to fill.
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 21, 2004 0:21:28 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]Bane isn't listed, because not all 1st season characters are put into a press kit. These images and bios were scanned from the official WB press kits, which started arriving today.
Mine'll be here on Monday. It includes a batarang, special belt light a cd rom full of images AND A DVD OF THE FIRST EPISODE!
Of course LoG will have full coverage of this Monday.[/shadow]
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Post by The Detective on Aug 21, 2004 4:40:38 GMT -5
Wow so on Monday Matt you will be able to see the first episode, very cool. Can we expect a review? And your actually getting a batarang, be careful though you could poke someones eye out with that Matt
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Post by OneDisturbedSOB on Aug 21, 2004 14:07:28 GMT -5
speaking of....does anyone know if they'll go full out with the figures and accessories? like a Batarang, Alfred figure, Bruce Wayne figure...etc?
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Post by The Detective on Aug 21, 2004 14:18:16 GMT -5
speaking of....does anyone know if they'll go full out with the figures and accessories? like a Batarang, Alfred figure, Bruce Wayne figure...etc? Yeah i hope they bring out an alfred figure also i wanna see catwoman figure. A batrang role playing toy would be good aswell. Bruce Wayne is already a figure
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Post by OneDisturbedSOB on Aug 21, 2004 14:25:12 GMT -5
I mean a real Bruce Wayne figure...in his usual suit, not just the average "bruce to batman" figure they release in every line.
Does anyone have any info on wave 2? supposedly the Man-Bat, Bane, and Firefly figures are to be released in wave 3. No one has seen any of the figures from wave 2, but I hear Mr. Freeze is coming with that one.
I wonder how long it'll be until we see "The Batman" video game for next gen consoles. I think Matsuda's art direction would translate really nicely into a videogame...has anyone seen the screenshots from the upcoming Jackie Chan Adventures game?? looks JUST LIKE the show.
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 21, 2004 14:25:48 GMT -5
speaking of....does anyone know if they'll go full out with the figures and accessories? like a Batarang, Alfred figure, Bruce Wayne figure...etc? [shadow=green,left,300]I'd say you have a good chance as for wave two, if you checked our the batman toy page you'd know penguin is expected. The rest of the villians are unconfirmed at this point, but I wouldn't expect freeze until next summer.....I should have more details soon. As for Bruce in his suit, as I've said before the Horsemen sculpted him, but Mattel hasn't made any descisions just yet. Depends on how the toon/toys do.[/shadow]
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Post by OneDisturbedSOB on Aug 21, 2004 14:29:30 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I'd say you have a good chance [/shadow] Excellent....I'm still not over the fact that Matsuda's doing THE BATMAN, I LOVE his work, and this is just another excuse for me to go blow some money on figures, and accessories. It's like I told my girlfriend when she said "why are you buying the Batmobile, don't you already have a ton of them??" to which I replied in an annoyed manner..."If I don't get the Batmobile, then how is he supposed to get around and fight crime!?!?" she just stared at me...it was classic
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Post by Josh on Aug 21, 2004 14:31:24 GMT -5
[glow=blue,2,300]As long as they keep releasing different characters, I'll be happy. [/glow]
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Post by OneDisturbedSOB on Aug 21, 2004 14:37:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I just hope they focus more on releasing main characters and not those variants. I'm still upset that the stupid launcher thing won't come off Batman's arm!
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Post by reideen1313 on Aug 21, 2004 15:20:14 GMT -5
If it bothers you (or if the line comes apart from the Batarang, like mine did) just dremel it down and repaint the glove. I did and I'm pretty pleased with the results, and I'm by no means a customizer. It was a pretty easy job - just take it slow and look at the other arm for asthetic comparison. Look frequently! I almost cut too much off and had to fill in a little gap with some putty.
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Post by San Diego Chargers on Aug 21, 2004 20:15:47 GMT -5
I hated his design at first, but this Joker is really starting to grow on me.
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Post by OneDisturbedSOB on Aug 21, 2004 20:29:33 GMT -5
If it bothers you (or if the line comes apart from the Batarang, like mine did) just dremel it down and repaint the glove. I did and I'm pretty pleased with the results, and I'm by no means a customizer. It was a pretty easy job - just take it slow and look at the other arm for asthetic comparison. Look frequently! I almost cut too much off and had to fill in a little gap with some putty. Thanks for the tip, I just wish they would have made it easier on us and made the thing removable. I don't see the need for it to be on there permanently, but oh well. Maybe when the deluxe 'bat-wave' figures come out I can just use one of those arms.
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Post by PJ on Aug 21, 2004 21:47:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures. I can't wait for the show to air. PJ
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Post by Det27 on Aug 22, 2004 14:35:11 GMT -5
I can't believe they undid the great characterization Paul Dini did for Mr. Freeze (which the comics and even the dreadful Batman and Robin adopted) and returned him to just a costumed thief.
It also doesn't sound like the Joker is a result of getting knocked into chemicals by Batman, which is the classic origin. Is he a Jamaican?
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Post by The Dinoboy Wonder! on Aug 22, 2004 17:14:18 GMT -5
lol at det27.
I really like the penguin design...and catwoman too. im still getting used to the joker and mr.freeze, which is really cool, just not what I imagined...and the descriptin for mr.freeze isn't what we want obviously...
and im still not pleased with bruce...he's...ugly....he isn't supposed to be ugly...
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Post by /\/\att on Aug 22, 2004 17:40:07 GMT -5
I can't believe they undid the great characterization Paul Dini did for Mr. Freeze (which the comics and even the dreadful Batman and Robin adopted) and returned him to just a costumed thief. It also doesn't sound like the Joker is a result of getting knocked into chemicals by Batman, which is the classic origin. Is he a Jamaican? [shadow=green,left,300]Its a different vision for the universe, therefore not everything can be the same. They need to have the freedom to mold some details to fit their new vision. I, for one, think that btas did all it could. Its an icon now. But let it go, and don't hold it against a new animation team. I'm ready for some fresh takes on my fav franchise! I don't hear people complaining about the movies like this.[/shadow]
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Post by Det27 on Aug 22, 2004 17:48:05 GMT -5
I'm all for fresh takes, but throwing out the good things isn't fresh, it's a step backwards.
I like the look of Batman in this toon more than Timm's. I like the Edge, so I imagine I'll like the theme. But those are the only 2 things I like that i've seen so far, but I'll still wait and see, though I'm not optimistic.
I like Adam West's Batman. I like Tim Burton's Batman. I like Batman Beyond. I like some Elsewords. I like Kane's Batman to Sprang's, to Rodgers to O'neil and Adams to Jeph Loeb and Jim Lee's/ I don't like the spins Birds of Prey on tv and the Catwoman movie took, nor Shumacher's. There are some things you can't change without diminishing the characters. If people want more freedom, create new characters. But the reason to use established characters is because they have some timless elements that don't need to be changed or improved. Catwoman should have been called something else. I think tossing out the deeper Freeze origin is one such mistep. He goes from tragic back to just corny, at least in theory. We'll see if they had a good reason to throw out the improvements, as I saw them, on Mr. Freeze when the episode airs. Same with Rhasta Joker, Red-Hulk Bane, no Gordon(at least as a Lt.), hipster Bruce(I hope the comic's dialogue isn't the same as the show's), Bat-wave toy tie-ins, and some of the anime-esque designs. I'm also wary of Batman Begins, but that's more as it seems to be trying to be too serious and could turn out dull and pretentious like the Hulk. Casting people that don't look exactly like the comic drawings doesn't really bother me as it's better to have good actors than exact physical matches. It's not as easy to make real people look "right" as it is in comics or animation.
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Post by J-Man on Aug 22, 2004 20:54:46 GMT -5
[shadow=purple,left,300]The only complaint I have isn't really a "complaint," its a concern. I just want to know if they changed Freeze's origin around. Nora is, or would seem as a result of B:TAS, a huge part of Freeze's background. It's why he is Mr. Freeze. But, hey, I'm not gonna boycott it if he is just a costumed menace. I'll watch it and give it a fair shot. I can't really have any gripes with the stories/ explaination if they haven't been revealed 100% yet. If that didn't make sense, I'm rather groggy, so I'm sorry. [/shadow]
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