Post by filmationbatmanfan on Nov 25, 2006 18:40:09 GMT -5
I just recently finished viewing the original 1973 SuperFriends episodes and as I get older, these episodes are getting harder and harder to sit through without rolling your eyes or shaking your head in disgust at the writing and dialogue.
I always liked Robin because he was always portrayed as older (about 18) and competent on the shows of my time, which were both Batman cartoons by Filmation and the SuperFriends.
As a rule of thumb, the kid sidekick is one who fights fairly well alongside his mentor and screws up periodically and learns from his mentor. But on the SuperFriends and the Filmation shows (the 1977 series actually), Robin was as professional and as competent as Batman. but the characters who were screwing up and always getting themselves into trouble were the designated sidekicks on the SuperFriends. First Wendy and Marvin in 1973 and later, Zan and Jayna not to mention their retarded pets.
My question is, do you think these sidekicks may have been unconsciously designed to make Robin look good? Now ther's a topic for you. Cheers.
Post by catfanbogota on Nov 30, 2006 4:58:52 GMT -5
It could be the case. I had stopped watching Saturday morning cartoons in late 1970, and thought that was beneath my dignity, because I wanted to grow up. So I did not see this.
However, it seems the earlier cartoons did not really respect the comics' origin. When Super Friends did their 1985 season, they had Adam West, and they used story lines that DID look into such topics as Batman's origins. My guess is that the cartoon got off on the wrong foot, but improved as time went on.
As for Robin, I don't think so. It just turned out that way.
If it came down to a choice between the Wonder Twins and Wendy & Marvin, I'd choose the twins every time. I hate Wendy & Marvin. I have no problem with the twins, but Robin is Robin, and I can't imagine Super Friends without Casaey Kasem's voice saying "Holy...etc"
Post by jasontodd2 on Dec 24, 2006 14:03:53 GMT -5
I think they made the other sidekicks thinking that really young kids would think they were fun & funny, and parents would think this show isn't all that bad, so basically IMO they were created for comic relief so that the real heroes wouldn't have to be the goofballs that for some reason big networks think parents and kids want to see, I hate The Wonder Twins, and Marvin, Wendy and there dumb dog!
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