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Post by electri on Jan 14, 2008 16:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 14, 2008 17:43:00 GMT -5
It's just natural to hate the guy who tried to ruin one of your favorite characters. Look at Joe Quesada at Marvel for what he did to Spidey. Except he succeded in ruining him.
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trashsmasher
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Post by trashsmasher on Jan 14, 2008 18:05:14 GMT -5
He needs to do MORE than apologize. How about donating no less than $500,000 to the HERO INITIATIVE charity. An apology for just "Forever" would have been enough, but continuing his blasphemy in "Batman and Robin" was too much.
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Post by Batlaw on Jan 14, 2008 21:23:14 GMT -5
Joel Schumacher gets way too much grief and blame. Yes Batman and Robin stunk, but C'mon.
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Post by J-Man on Jan 15, 2008 0:27:53 GMT -5
Seriously, it's been over a decade since Schumacher ruined the original Bat franchise, which-- in hindsight-- wasn't all that good anyway. Considering we have Batman Begins, and what many consider a decent second franchise in the making, fans should just forget Schumacher's movies and focus on the future.
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Post by electri on Jan 15, 2008 10:36:13 GMT -5
So if he hadn't ruined it we would have never had nolans batman begins and soon to be TDK!
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Post by trashsmasher on Jan 16, 2008 17:44:23 GMT -5
I was really kidding/being saracastic. LOL. I don't hate the man.
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Post by electri on Jan 20, 2008 9:54:04 GMT -5
He did one thing right show people arkham but those cops who put mr freeze in jail were more eviler than him when they put him in that light
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Post by megagents on Jan 20, 2008 19:23:42 GMT -5
I didn't know Batman and Robin was hated so much.
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Post by electri on Jan 21, 2008 15:49:39 GMT -5
Yep I personally hated it for these reasons but I don't hate the man who made it:
1) at the beginning it says "thats why superman works alone" it would work in the comics but we haven't seen them work together on screen ever so the line didn't fit in
2)The flashy lights like come one batman 1989, batman returs, batman begins and soon to be TDK are dark with like no lighting nearly!
3) So unfaithful to the comics batgirl was alfreds was his neice I think and she shouldn't be she is the commissioners daughters there were no signs of that we got her related to alfred!
4) Alfred was dying it could've been good if it wasn't a batman film and was say like a proper family film were they don't figt or anything like batman does!
5) to end it off nipples were on the batsuit gosh that was the batsuit of torture
again this was the movie not the director I'm talking about
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Post by MuksC on Jan 21, 2008 18:21:15 GMT -5
but a lot of those things you hate were in Schumacher's hands. he was the one who made it the campy neon-filled romp it turned out to be, so he definitely has to take most of the blame.
the way we look at Batman Begins and TDK as Chris Nolan's "vision", Batman Forever and B&R were Joel's vision of what he wanted to make Batman movies like, so you can't hate the movie but not blame him for it, when 99% of it was his choice.
you talk about the inconsistency of Batgirl being Alfred's niece. well what about in Batman '89, they made Jack Napier kill Bruce's parents, but in the comics, it's Joe Chill who killed them (as he did in Begins), so even the first proper movie (and director Tim Burton) is not without fault.
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Post by electri on Jan 22, 2008 10:35:34 GMT -5
yes but every1 knew from the cartoon who's daugter Gordans was whilst we didn't get arecount of the origns in the cartoon so people didn't care as much. Yes 99% of it as Joels idea but doesn't mean you have to hate him
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