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Post by greg on Jul 25, 2005 17:19:21 GMT -5
how would you guys compare the Batman to the older Batman Animated Series? i liked TAS a lot, and i thought about watching it, but i'd have to get up at 7:30 ( ) and i wanted to make sure it was good. what do you guys think? reasons would help.
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Post by Batlaw on Jul 25, 2005 17:30:01 GMT -5
If you have the means, tape it. If youre like me, its not worth getting up early for. I try to tape it but I always seem to forget and yet I dont seem to beat myself up when I realise I've forgotten... if that gives you an idea? I try to avoid making comparisons between BTAS and The Batman, but its hard not to.
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Post by HUSH on Jul 25, 2005 17:36:14 GMT -5
B:TAS was masterful. I can't really say which is better, The Batman or B:TAS, because that'd be kinda like comparing apples and oranges, but while The Batman focuses more on re-interpretation of characters, visuals, and a new take on a classic idea, B:TAS focused more on tragic villains, Batman's motives, mindset, and psyche, and great storytelling. Which you like best, and you don't have to choose one, just depends on your preferences. However, I WOULD highly recommend B:TAS, as I myself grew up on it, and it is very a deep, mature, and quality series.
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Post by greg on Jul 28, 2005 0:28:55 GMT -5
yeah i grew up on it too, its awesome stuff. i need cable so i can see it in syndication. i might try to tape it . . .
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Post by reideen1313 on Jul 28, 2005 17:10:21 GMT -5
There's really no comparison.
Btas is what many forum members grew up with. This is true on just about any forum that you'd post this type of question on. Btas was what introduced them to the world of Batman. Therefore, it's always going to be the measuring stick against which all other projects will be compared. It was a good show, but it was not without it's problems and weak episodes.
The Batman, as mentioned above, is a reimagining or reintroduction of the character to kids growing up today. The graphics IMO are better and the stories are just as fun as BTAS. I really enjoy the relationship that Bruce has with Alfred. Yin is a very strong female character, which I think helps it appeal to girls. The characters have been returned to many of their original origins, or at least, closer to them than Btas was. As an older member of the forum, IMO this is a good thing. I grew up watching reruns of the '60's show and Superfriends, so any improvement over the camp of those shows is good! ;D Keep in mind, this is the 2nd season of The Batman. BTAS took a couple of seasons to grow into it's shoes.
Both shows are good. Both shows have their place in the Bat-mythos. The show is not horrible, like you're likely to read at other sites (with less mature posters). It does have some issues, but it's getting much better. The first few eps were slow - but they needed to establish Batman and some of the rogues. Now that that's been accomplished, it's picking up steam - this season's eps have been the best yet.
Give it a shot and form your own opinion. Go into it expecting to see a Batman cartoon aimed at kids - not Shakespeare a'la Batman - and you'll be fine.
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Post by Drizzt2218 on Jul 29, 2005 1:37:49 GMT -5
Why can't people be happy with both? I'll never understand the mentality that you have to pick one over the other. They're both high quality shows, they both have their strengths and their flaws, and they both represent different, yet equally faithful versions of the Dark Knight.
I love my B:TAS DVD sets, and I very much have enjoyed every series Bruce Timm and Paul Dini and the like have been involved with, from S:TAS to JLU -- and all of those shows, like every other creative endeavor, have their own flaws, too. Once nostalgia is factored out of the equation, one cannot honestly claim that every episode of B:TAS was pure gold, either. Some were ridiculous, some were far too slow, and others were just poorly animated.
In my opinion, The Batman's first season was overall very entertaining, but didn't reach a truly high note until that stunning two-part finale -- which makes sense, when you consider that the first season was a building block, introducing not only the world of The Batman to new viewers unfamiliar with the Bat-Mythology, but also introducing new writers who've never written Batman before, and had to find their own groove. If I was a kid watching Batman for the first time, I would have been hooked. As it was, I was entertained week in and week out -- and most shows cannot accomplish even that much. I think they did a great job in that first season, and have only gotten better.
I don't see how anyone with an unbiased opinion could say that season two of The Batman hasn't been an incredible ride. This season has seen a trip into Joker's psyche, more tragedy for Clayface, a romance bloom between Bruce and Selina, the first appearance of The Riddler, one of the finest Joker plots ever as he dons Batman's cape and cowl, and many other fun, great stories.
So is The Batman worth your time? The answer is a resounding "Yes!"
--Larry
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Post by HUSH on Jul 29, 2005 1:52:52 GMT -5
Why can't people be happy with both? I'll never understand the mentality that you have to pick one over the other. They're both high quality shows, they both have their strengths and their flaws, and they both represent different, yet equally faithful versions of the Dark Knight. I love my B:TAS DVD sets, and I very much have enjoyed every series Bruce Timm and Paul Dini and the like have been involved with, from S:TAS to JLU -- and all of those shows, like every other creative endeavor, have their own flaws, too. Once nostalgia is factored out of the equation, one cannot honestly claim that every episode of B:TAS was pure gold, either. Some were ridiculous, some were far too slow, and others were just poorly animated. In my opinion, The Batman's first season was overall very entertaining, but didn't reach a truly high note until that stunning two-part finale -- which makes sense, when you consider that the first season was a building block, introducing not only the world of The Batman to new viewers unfamiliar with the Bat-Mythology, but also introducing new writers who've never written Batman before, and had to find their own groove. If I was a kid watching Batman for the first time, I would have been hooked. As it was, I was entertained week in and week out -- and most shows cannot accomplish even that much. I think they did a great job in that first season, and have only gotten better. I don't see how anyone with an unbiased opinion could say that season two of The Batman hasn't been an incredible ride. This season has seen a trip into Joker's psyche, more tragedy for Clayface, a romance bloom between Bruce and Selina, the first appearance of The Riddler, one of the finest Joker plots ever as he dons Batman's cape and cowl, and many other fun, great stories. So is The Batman worth your time? The answer is a resounding "Yes!" --Larry I couldn't agree more. I have always objected to comparisons between the two, and I think over time, a fan can, as I have tried to do, learn to appreciate each for what it is. Altho, I don't think greg meant to get anyone riled up, more that he wanted to learn how good B:TAS was by comparing it to something he is familiar with, The Batman. In that case, I can say B:TAS was very good, and worth it, but the two series are very different, and cannot really be compared. Apples and oranges, like I said in my last post. Anyway, here's an exalt, drizzt22182, for the usual thoughtful post.
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Post by arkhaminmate on Aug 4, 2005 23:26:03 GMT -5
Personally I enjoy the series, the designs, & storylines. But it's for younger viewers, & isn't as good as BTAS. but they each are diffrent.
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Post by coliv1977 on Aug 5, 2005 7:27:06 GMT -5
If it weren't for the animation, I would have all the BTAS DVD's. I think the writing and the acting are phenomenal. I just don't like that old style of animation. As for the Batman, I can't stand it, I think the character designs are terrible, as is the writing (Penguin: "The oz-meister is in the house")!! Above all(and I know this is probably sacrilage), I don't care for this particular interpretation of the character. I don't care what it was like for him at an early age, and I'm sure he never encountered any villains at that age. The BTAS Batman was much more intense and brooding and you really had a sense of what the character's mindset was. There is no substance to "The Batman" Bruce Wayne, it's all about hip dialogue and him partying. I can't wait until this series gets old and they decide to put it on the shelf and the next series comes along, hopefully with the real, the true Bruce Wayne and not the "Dawson's Creek" version
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