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Post by Peev34 on Sept 2, 2004 15:06:06 GMT -5
If not just child endangerment as he was in civilain garb and not actually on a Robin mission when killed. [shadow=blue,left,300]Ummm....Maybe I'm reading your post wrong....but Jason WAS in "Robin mode" when he was killed, as he exposed his identity to his newly found mother and changed into the costume before the Joker had entered the scene...... Anyhow, I agree that Jason has to be involved here somehow. Over the previous story arc, the innuendo that he is out there is obvious. Much like the HUSH storyline, DC will not let that sit unresolved forever. What better time to drop this bomb than in the biggest Batman arc of the year? [/shadow] |
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Post by reideen1313 on Sept 2, 2004 15:08:06 GMT -5
Unless they are starting to take tips from Marvel - they could leave plot threads open for years and years with no resolution....
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Post by Peev34 on Sept 2, 2004 15:13:01 GMT -5
Unless they are starting to take tips from Marvel - they could leave plot threads open for years and years with no resolution.... [shadow=blue,left,300]Let's hope not.[/shadow] |
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Sept 2, 2004 20:33:14 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Let's hope not.[/shadow] [glow=purple,2,300]Yeah, let's hope that DC doesn't take a page out of Marvel's book. [/glow] |
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Post by reideen1313 on Sept 2, 2004 21:18:16 GMT -5
Y'know - I posted that jokingly. After I did, I started to think about it.
How cool would it be to have Jason's fate unresolved? Just someone messing with Batman's head from time to time. Leaving the occasional clue for Bats, Alfred or Robin to pick up. He could even branch out and visit Nightwing or Oracle.
It could be a running theme in the Batbooks for a while, kind of like Where's Waldo, but with Jason instead - you get a glimpse of his trenchcoat or see one of his (I'm taking some artistic license here) redesigned Batarangs. Who knows what the team at DC could do with it?
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Sept 2, 2004 22:41:43 GMT -5
Y'know - I posted that jokingly. After I did, I started to think about it. How cool would it be to have Jason's fate unresolved? Just someone messing with Batman's head from time to time. Leaving the occasional clue for Bats, Alfred or Robin to pick up. He could even branch out and visit Nightwing or Oracle. It could be a running theme in the Batbooks for a while, kind of like Where's Waldo, but with Jason instead - you get a glimpse of his trenchcoat or see one of his (I'm taking some artistic license here) redesigned Batarangs. Who knows what the team at DC could do with it? [glow=purple,2,300]You mean like what they've been doing to Wolverine over the past two/three years? Like every time Wolve faces off against a telapath, or a member of the government they throw out the name "James" (His birth name); as a fun way to torture him. Hmmm...sounds like a another good way to get under ol' pointy ear's skin. [/glow] |
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Post by reideen1313 on Sept 2, 2004 23:02:35 GMT -5
Y'know, Wolvie was what I was thinking. It was more along the lines of the Weapon X storyline. That and the Summers' third brother. Have they ever resolved either of those plots?
I actually had no idea about the "James" thing. I haven't read a Wolvie comic in probably 10+ years.
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Sept 3, 2004 13:02:05 GMT -5
Y'know, Wolvie was what I was thinking. It was more along the lines of the Weapon X storyline. That and the Summers' third brother. Have they ever resolved either of those plots? I actually had no idea about the "James" thing. I haven't read a Wolvie comic in probably 10+ years. [glow=purple,2,300]Yeah, since the Origin mini-series telepath/government villans calling Logan "James" has been the trend. Though I'm not too sure the Summer's third brother thing has been resolved; I think that's right up there with the true identity of the hobgoblin story line. [/glow] |
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Post by Det27 on Sept 3, 2004 14:54:05 GMT -5
That would be cool unresolved as would KEEPING Bruce's parent's muderer anonymous. Zero Hour undid Joe Chill being the killer. Batman/Superman might be making Metallo the killer, undoing that. I don't think War Games is going to have any major revelations. I think a character like Spoiler or Orhpeus might die. I don't think the villian taking advantage of Spoiler's mistake will be Jason, Luthor, or anyone else major.
As for Jason's death, your right, he did die in the Robin suit, but not on patrol with Batman or a mission for Batman. He was off searching for his mother as Jason Todd running off without Bruce. If he died while on patrol with Batman or someplace he had sent him, it would have been a lot different. He didn't die for being Robin, but rather for trying to protect his mother while searching for her which had nothing to do with Batman and Robin.
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 5, 2004 6:19:04 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]I've got another war games theory to throw out there...we know it'll impact the batman...well, what if his matches malone cover gets blown finally?! Its bound to happen at some point...and that would have an impact on his ability to retrieve information and manipulate the crime syndicates....[/shadow]
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Sept 5, 2004 18:35:08 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]Yeah, that would hurt bats. I mean, he would probably just assume a new identity, but it would take years for that identity to build up the rep. that matches has.[/glow]
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 6, 2004 1:29:30 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]Yeah, that would hurt bats. I mean, he would probably just assume a new identity, but it would take years for that identity to build up the rep. that matches has.[/glow] [shadow=green,left,300]hmmm or perhaps my theory is better matched with IDENTITY crisis...[/shadow] |
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Post by gotham95 on Sept 6, 2004 21:54:05 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Possible Spoiler
Ok this may be a longshot but what if it's the new commissioner. He's bald. It would pave the way for Gordon to return. Just in time for the movie too.[/shadow]
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Post by Flamebird on Sept 7, 2004 14:19:23 GMT -5
ooooooooo - scandalous - taht woudl be cool with jim gordon back - very cool - i like it, but itsnot a super villan - and please can he not turn into a NEW one - mayb he's someone in disguise?
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Sept 7, 2004 14:29:33 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]hmmm...commish. Akins saw his oportunity and decided to get rid of Batman; whom he doesn't approve of in the first place.
It could work! [/glow]
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Post by shadowbat on Sept 11, 2004 7:56:03 GMT -5
if you haven't read any new issue this week, then don't read this post!!
well, i guess you can say Batman was the true person responsible for war games, since it was his contigency plan. but, alas, Spoiler had to be the crappy character that she is and steal it. then try to implement it herself. hopefully she will be one of the victims of war games. i must say though, this was kind of a let down. Spoiler? i'd prefer some huge conspiracy involving a rogue. Spoiler just sucks. as does this story so far, IMO.
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 13, 2004 3:54:53 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]well, there has to be more to it than that.
I've read next weeks issues already...parts 3 and 4...
SPOILERS AHEAD
and let me tell you a certain orpheus is in mortal trouble...and spoiler's going to see some bad things![/shadow]
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Post by Flamebird on Sept 13, 2004 12:10:11 GMT -5
How long does it take for soemthignt o be published as a trade paperback
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Sept 14, 2004 11:50:10 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]Generally a couple of months, the amount of time goes down if the particular arc or series is very popular. [/glow]
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 19, 2004 3:15:52 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]wow, things are heating up! I know who that man with the white gloves is...the one doing all the vicious murdering....the one that bitched our Scarface...the one that will become Gotham's worst nightmare over the next year....
HUGE SPOILER[/shadow]
highlight below to find out!
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its the mysterious red hood
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Post by shadowbat on Sept 19, 2004 9:11:48 GMT -5
hey Matt, whats your theory on who do you think is "behind the mask"? i'm thinking joker trying to regain his crown.
by the way, how do you do spoiler tags on here?
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Post by reideen1313 on Sept 19, 2004 12:12:35 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]wow, things are heating up! I know who that man with the white gloves is...the one doing all the vicious murdering....the one that bitched our Scarface...the one that will become Gotham's worst nightmare over the next year.... HUGE SPOILER[/shadow] highlight below to find out! ----------------- its the mysterious red hood----------------- What? The ____ _____? (Highlight above if you want to see what I'm talking about) I was right for a change! Now lets just see if my 2nd theory is right. I predict it's Tim's dad. (Keep in mind, I've read 1 issue of this arc, so I'm just speculating here...) |
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 20, 2004 1:15:21 GMT -5
hey Matt, whats your theory on who do you think is "behind the mask"? i'm thinking joker trying to regain his crown.
by the way, how do you do spoiler tags on here? [shadow=green,left,300]I dunno..I actually don't think its Joker this time...[/shadow] |
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Post by Flamebird on Sept 20, 2004 12:49:46 GMT -5
it would almost be too cliche - you know - liek oh its joker, i mean he's been around for ages, i liek the idea of tim's dad
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 20, 2004 13:31:43 GMT -5
it would almost be too cliche - you know - liek oh its joker, i mean he's been around for ages, i liek the idea of tim's dad [shadow=green,left,300]its not joker[/shadow] |
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Post by Flamebird on Sept 20, 2004 13:54:29 GMT -5
good, otherwise the story would be CRAP
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Post by Darthm on Sept 24, 2004 16:36:10 GMT -5
Does anyone know why Black Mask has a skull mask? In Act Two, part 5 of 8 of War Games, Black Mask shows up wearing a skull mask. Also, when did he start wearing it?
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Post by Batboy on Sept 25, 2004 23:46:30 GMT -5
The last few issues have been quite weak. The whole Spoiler putting the whole war games thing into motion is just too weak for me, I was hoping for something a little more full.
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Post by /\/\att on Sept 26, 2004 3:15:16 GMT -5
The last few issues have been quite weak. The whole Spoiler putting the whole war games thing into motion is just too weak for me, I was hoping for something a little more full. [shadow=green,left,300]Thats not the end of the story. Theres more important things to it. Here's the entire point...batman is only human and he made a HUGE mistake letting stephanie in so fast...and he, having way too much access to things has shown how much damage Batman can do to Gotham if he chooses. Furthermore, the story is more about the results of this terrible mishap..the villians that will emerge with control of Gotham are none too nice! [/shadow] |
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Post by NAMTAB on Sept 26, 2004 4:02:31 GMT -5
I AGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE REAL POINT OF THE STORY IS THAT BATMAN ACTUALLY HAS GROWN TO COCKY AND IS MAKING SOME MISTAKES BECAUSE OF IT THAT WILL COST HIM.
AND WHAT'S WITH ALL THE HATE FOR SPOILER?
I ACTUALLY LIKE THE CHARACTER.
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