and Red Hood Is....SPOILERS

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SPOILERS on Red Hood Below.
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(highlight to read)its Jason Todd! He gives the Joker a very familiar beating with a crowbar at the end of the issue. It give no info on how or why he's back yet.

Spoiler color by Reideen (for those who are reading this in the 10 most recent posts)

[reideen1313]

Yep! I read it in the store and I still had to buy it! I can't believe it was actually him!

[ThatBlockoGuy]

Now let's see how this pans out. Hopefully it will really be him and not another clayface situation, or worse a Spidey Clone saga type thing.

[JokerFC]

good stuff!!!!!

[HUSH]

EXCELLENT!!!

[Arkham16]

Awesome...just...speechless. Never doubt /\/\att on these things. Aren't I right guys?

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/\/\att said:

I'm gonna say Jason Todd.

I'm perfectly happy with this revelation, personally. As Blocko said, lets take it with a grain of salt for a few months, because this is comic books..and DC could be screwing us around, but I honestly hope this is for real.

I've always felt, and I've said this since the Hush saga was going on, that Jason represents so much guilt..so much self doubt on behalf of the dark knight..he's partially responsible for the man we see today as he is today...to have that come back and face him..and face him as a villian..its an amazing psychological depth to play with. I'm very excited to see this pan out.

[Batrez]

now im curious who he works for..think about it, who got him alive and taught him a mean streak...my money is on ra al ghul.

[Batrez]

hey matt, I do believe its jason..I mean at the end how he beat the crap out of the joker with a tire iron...but this is real weird, im starting to feel sorry for the joker. Hes not the big bad name in gotham anymore, he gotten beaten up by hush and the jsaon todd. ..I just hope he comes back to old joker form.

[/\/\att]

[shadow=teal,left,300]I think the Joker got what he had coming...Karma and all.

He'll be back, no doubts about that!

as for jason, there are a LOT of unanswered questions. I wonder, with the 'Infinite Crisis' coming up, if this perhaps isn't a jason from another universe? Otherwise, how could he have aged like that...and how could his mostly decomposed body be revived in the first place?! Perhaps in another universe Joker beat him, but didn't blow him up, so hs survived?......just a crazy thought....
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[JotaEse]

His body survived the explosion..Bruce carried it out.

Also, Ra's said the Lazurus Pit could bring back the Wayne's....and they are dust and maybe bones...so surely it could Jason....I believe it. Maybe he was brought back a long time ago by Ra's or someone and aged and given all kinda negative stimuli....or maybe the Pit does it....

[jlavaia]

his body went missing during "hush", which means that someone took it to a lazarus pit, i'm guessing Hush as he knew where one was to bring the Riddler there. it doesnt matter how long the body has been dead, also in "hush" Ra's said that the pit was tainted, but he didnt say how many people had used it, so maybe both Riddler and Jason used it, and possibly even Hush. i doubt that he's involved with Ra's. though he could be, and i would think it more if Ra's is seen again. remember "death and the maidens", Nyssa is now "the" Ra's al Ghul, after she stabbed him in the heart. it should be interesting to see how it all plays out. and i'm wondering if the Joker is really dead, and where Jason is getting all of his info. after reading Countdown to Infinite Crisis, either Black Mask has someone inside Checkmate, or Jason works for Checkmate. which is something i can definetly see. Max Lord has info on everything else, and he tried to recruit Blue Beetle. maybe he brought Jason back.

[JokerFC]

im betting his body was stolen and restored not recently,but maybe a short while after he died,after all many would be capable of restoring the grave easily enough after he had stolen his ultimate weapon whoever it was

[HUSH]

jlavaia said:

his body went missing during "hush", which means that someone took it to a lazarus pit, i'm guessing Hush as he knew where one was to bring the Riddler there. it doesnt matter how long the body has been dead, also in "hush" Ra's said that the pit was tainted, but he didnt say how many people had used it, so maybe both Riddler and Jason used it, and possibly even Hush. i doubt that he's involved with Ra's. though he could be, and i would think it more if Ra's is seen again.

Now that's interesting, I do think Hush could have been involved in Jason's ressurection, either him or Ra's, but not both.

[HUSH]

JOKERFC said:

im betting his body was stolen and restored not recently,but maybe a short while after he died,after all many would be capable of restoring the grave easily enough after he had stolen his ultimate weapon whoever it was

That makes perfect sense.

[ProfessorHStrange]

It will be interesting to see how this continues on.
I loved Jason Todd's Post-Crisis origin, being a street kid and Batman finding him and adopting him.
To me he had the best Robin origin, maybe not the best Robin, but the origin yeah!

ProfessorH!

[ThatBlockoGuy]

Hush possibly being responsible for Jason's return would be a great psychological twist. Unfortunately, I think Matt might also have something with the whole alternate universe thing (not that it's unfortunate that Matt might have something, rather it would be unfortunate if he was righ....that's not what I mean either...sigh..Matt could be on to something...but I hope they don't go the alternate universe route...there).
Best line I read in another forum: someone wrote that if Todd is back, the writer wants a refund from DC for the cost of the call from the phone in poll that did him in in the first place. Hey, here's a thought maybe he's a Jason from an alternate universe in which the fans voted to keep him alive LOL.

[Dr. Baghead]

I haven't read this yet... but I really like the cover.

After reading the Superman is a dick web-site (hopes everyone here already knows about that so I don't sound like the weird on) I said to a friend "I miss those old covers with dialog, they need to bring those back... like there's this one coming up with Batman holding the Red Hood's mask gasping, and if since he's supposed to be Jason Todd they have him be like 'NO! It can't be!'..."

and lo and behold I walked into the comic shop today and nearly crapped myself when I saw the final cover with two big balloons sayin "It can't be!" and "N-NOT YOU!!" the only thing it was missing was a little strip at the bottom saying something like "What mysterious specter has returned from beyond to haunt Batman?! Find out in this thrilling issue!"

So thanks DC for making the cover extra terrific! You can stop reading my IM's now.

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JotaEse said:

His body survived the explosion..Bruce carried it out.

YEs the dead body was carried out, but was partly decomposed by the time it was buried, as per Gotham Knights

[Disgruntled Gremlin]

Forgive me for being a little cruel- I'll try not to make thing gratuitous or unnecessary...

:)RANT WARNING!

There's a reason a lot of people don't respect comic books. This kind of thing pretty much somes it up. I think the whole thing is a little insulting, myself.

Jason Todd didn't survive because, simply put, people didn't like him. He was a punk, far too angsty for a lot of peoples' taste (mine included- he got on my nerves a bit). But with death came the status of a martyr, thus making his character far more interesting dead than alive. He is Batman's lost soldier. A reminder of the fragility of his partnerships, and I think it's silliness to pervert that solely because another wanna-Robin-be got herself whacked in the line of duty.

I'm sorry, but no matter how hard any writer tries, the return from the dead thing has been done so many times that it's lost its impact, and absolutely nothing done with this story will be able to match the emotional impact of the original loss, which now, assuming the whole thing is true, will be forever tainted.

(shakes head in disbelief)

Mind boggling. Way to go, DC.

[Archangel]

Hmm, well this could be really interesting.

Anyway, since we know he's back, I have a theory about how things could go from here - We all know this "Infinite Crisis" thing is on the way, and perhaps this all ties in with the memory wiping and stuff that's been going on with "Identity Crisis", i.e, what if for some reason certain memories in Batman's memory had long ago been erased and the whole death of Jason thing was just an implanted memory. Maybe it was implanted in Joker's mind too. Perhaps something really big is going on behind the scenes and this is all to throw Bats totally off.

I donno, it's just a thought, and it's probably full of holes, but it's fun to speculate...

[ThatBlockoGuy]

Oh yeah, the cover. You're right it was cool. Very reto.

[JokerFC]

HUSH said:

That makes perfect sense.

thanks man

[JotaEse]

In this week's Wizard they had JEph, Judd, Geoff, Greg Rucka, and a few others for an interview about Infinite Crisis and the events leading up....this is POST Hush but early-to-mid 1993.......

They said EVERY major event in any DC comics since then has been carefully planned and ties into the Infinite Crisis...so...

[ThatBlockoGuy]

JotaEse said:

this is POST Hush but early-to-mid 1993.......

They said EVERY major event in any DC comics since then has been carefully planned and ties into the Infinite Crisis...so...

I don't understand the "post Hush/early 1993" reference. but I wouldn't be surprised if the Infinite Crisis had been a consideration for a while.

In an interview pertaining mainly to his Crisis (1980s) adaptation Marv Wolfman said that one of the ideas behind the original Crisis was that you could kill off a character and then reintroduce them later. In that way, although their history may be different, characters can always be "refreshed" for a new audience. Y'know I often wonder how much Time Warner has to say in all this. When Jason was killed off they gave DC the mandate to bring back a Robin ASAP. I wonder if re establishing the DCU every 10 years or so is as much a part of a business plan as it is a creative one? Attract a new group of readers every 10 years based on current marketing info/stats or something. Just a thought.

[JotaEse]

I meant 2003...ooops...IT was planned in 2003, after Hush was plotted and on it's way to us...sorry about that!! I was revisiting....I guess the Death of Supes or breaking of the Bat or something with 93...meant 03.

www.newsarama.com/DC/Countdown_more/Batman_Hello.htm

Interview with Winnick (I made a new post on it....) that is awesome! Go read it. The other post gives my thoughts.

[BDG]

i was glad to see it be jason as theyve been hinting at his return in a waide variety of ways like in hush and even at the end of the as the crow flies arc. as for how he can even be back at all...i think the answer is ra's al ghul. im really looking forward to see the interaction between nightwing and todd.
-BDG

[Dr. Crane]

I'm really hyped for the next chapter on this. Im not gonna be sure if bringing Jason Todd back will be a good or bad decision until the next issue tho.

[mike621]

My theory is that this Jason Tood is from a alternate universe he hooked up with the new SSOSV that some of you may have seen these past few months in some DC books they gave the info to not only take over Gotham but to take out Batman and Black Mask.

[ThatBlockoGuy]

Okay, what if it's an alternate Jason from the pre-crisis era, before the post crisis reboot...y'know the one whose folks were acrobats who were murdered by Croc?
I read the article/link....all I can say right now is that what Jason seems to be is somewhat similar to Jean Paul Valley's take on what the Bat should have been. This really better go somewhere good.