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Post by dhunter333 on Jan 14, 2007 12:31:22 GMT -5
in the past
i have seen a couple comic book incarnations of two face as a black man
harvey dent was portrayed by lando's actor from star wars in 1989's Batman
and there is a rumor jamie foxx could be harvey dent (doubtfully) in the dark knight
i'm a little curious if anyone can tell me where the confusion is originated as to his race?
i recall his early appearences as a white guy
and can anyone mention any other appearences as two face as a black man besides 1989 batman?
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 14, 2007 14:15:46 GMT -5
I've always seen Two-Face as white. And it will be horrible if Jamie Foxx is cast as him.
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Post by dhunter333 on Jan 14, 2007 16:53:47 GMT -5
come to think of it i have definately seen catwoman as a black woman in numerous comic variations
including i think catwoman defiant (maybe)
and her brother's keeper?
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 14, 2007 22:53:10 GMT -5
Catwoman was African American in the 1966 show when Eartha Kitt filled in the role, and again when Halle Berry did the role in a film that really had nothing to do with Catwoman whatsoever - but regardless did bare the name. If there have been any comic incarnations in this vein it was likely as an homage to Eartha, who was also a famous singer, and to this day I believe still does broadway.
Again, with Two-Face, an homage or two to Billy Dee Williams role in the 1989 film can be found, but this is a white character.
This is an interesting topic, because you don't see a lot of race variance in comic books period, but especially not in Batman's world. Not a lot of Asian villains either..at least not that don't know kung fu (ahem). Imagine that..not all with asian decent know martial arts! gasp! There I go smashing stereotypes again! silly me.
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Post by dhunter333 on Jan 15, 2007 19:11:22 GMT -5
i had enough of the whole asian villian think after the serials, talk about stereotypical...
what was catwoman's name in the movie (i know it wasn't selina kyle)
and did it have ANYTHING to do with anything or totally made up?
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 15, 2007 19:19:34 GMT -5
what was catwoman's name in the movie (i know it wasn't selina kyle) and did it have ANYTHING to do with anything or totally made up? It was Patience Phillips. I take it you haven't seen it? If you haven't, try to avoid it at ALL costs. Let's just say it was as good as Batman and Robin was. |
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Post by dhunter333 on Jan 15, 2007 21:17:55 GMT -5
i tried watching it once and got about halfway through (tough) and could not finish
rare for me
i hadnt seen it in years and forgot the name
it has no comic relation right?
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Post by wayneson on Jan 15, 2007 22:48:42 GMT -5
what was catwoman's name in the movie (i know it wasn't selina kyle) and did it have ANYTHING to do with anything or totally made up? It was Patience Phillips. I take it you haven't seen it? If you haven't, try to avoid it at ALL costs. Let's just say it was as good as Batman and Robin was. I thought it was Patience Price? |
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 15, 2007 23:25:47 GMT -5
It was Patience Phillips. I take it you haven't seen it? If you haven't, try to avoid it at ALL costs. Let's just say it was as good as Batman and Robin was. I thought it was Patience Price? Ok..this is the first and last time I will acknowlege that this movie even exists! lol. It was Patience Price during pre and some of production, but they changed it to Patience Phillips for some unknown reason. probably the same unknown force that caused them to make this attrocity of a film and tarnish the name of a beloved comic genre character. sigh. |
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Post by jlavaia on Jan 30, 2007 21:31:57 GMT -5
all comic versions of two-face were white. starting from earth-2 Harvey Kent, to newsstrip Harvey Apollo, to harvey's butler Wilkins, to the Charlatan (Paul Sloan), to George Blake, and finally to the one we all know and love Harvey Dent.
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Post by BruceBatman on May 27, 2007 15:04:53 GMT -5
Well i will always see Harvey as white.
It doesn't work out when he is black!
Also Jamie Fox would be a terrible Harvey!
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Post by coliv1977 on May 27, 2007 17:37:42 GMT -5
I always found it weird that Harvey Dent was black in the original Batman movie, but two-face was played by Tommy Lee Jones in "Forever". The character in the cartoon always looked black to me also, so to me, he's black
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Post by Dark Nightwing on May 28, 2007 2:42:34 GMT -5
Well i will always see Harvey as white. It doesn't work out when he is black! Also Jamie Fox would be a terrible Harvey! Any reason for these two statements? |
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Post by Batlaw on May 29, 2007 0:32:28 GMT -5
Jamie Fox's name was thrown out earlier as a candidate for the role. I agree he would not be a good choice IMO either. Brucebatman3 is offering his opinion as posed in the thread. I'm assuming he simply phrased it awkwardly.  |
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Post by crazyhatter on Jun 3, 2007 13:14:48 GMT -5
The character in the cartoon always looked black to me also, so to me, he's black Bruce Timm mentioned that on one of his commentaries on one of the Batman DVD's for the animated series. He essentially said he never meant for that. |
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Post by False Face on Jun 5, 2007 11:56:27 GMT -5
It sounded like they would have some trouble with colors on the show. Sometimes Harvey Dent would look darker than other moments in the same episode.
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Post by Batlaw on Jun 5, 2007 19:17:50 GMT -5
He's always been a white character and Ive always considered him a white character. In the Animated series he appeared to me as "could be either" but non specific. I think he was deliberately made to look "racially ambiguous" to be in sync with his portrayal by Billy Dee Williams in the Burton movies... similar with how/why the animated Penguin matched Danny Devito's live action version rather than follow comics history and design. Corporate synergy and all that.
I always thought Catwoman appeared black in "Year One" too?
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Post by False Face on Jun 6, 2007 19:31:25 GMT -5
With the dark setting and art, it does indeed look that way. And there was a black Catwoman I remember in the 60's Batman show. Anyway, back to Harvey Dent  |
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Post by jlavaia on Jun 13, 2007 14:46:45 GMT -5
all comic versions of two-face were white. starting from earth-2 Harvey Kent, to newsstrip Harvey Apollo, to harvey's butler Wilkins, to the Charlatan (Paul Sloan), to George Blake, and finally to the one we all know and love Harvey Dent. the movies and the animated series are not the comics, as i stated earlier, all comic versions of Two-Face are white, not counting elseworlds. |
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Post by crazyhatter on Jun 15, 2007 18:30:11 GMT -5
To me the race of a character shouldn't matter as long as the story stays true and the character remains interesting.
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Post by BruceBatman on Jul 26, 2007 1:21:46 GMT -5
Well I'm not racist or anything but I just want the characters to stay true to their origins!
What if they portrayed Blade, or other black comic characters (I can't think of any more right now) as white?
I wouldn't like that! It's not staying true to the origins!
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