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Post by grayson on May 4, 2010 18:31:37 GMT -5
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Post by All Star Batman on Jun 4, 2010 18:11:40 GMT -5
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Post by Jack the Skull on Jun 5, 2010 15:03:17 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]Thanks for the update.
I think Nolan has made a really good call here. Can't wait to find out who the actual villain(s) will be![/shadow]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2010 9:45:33 GMT -5
I had an argument with a coworker who felt that no one else should ever play the Joker again. I felt this was silly because Joker is a character, not a memorial for an actor. Although I loved Heath's performance, I believe that another actor could step into the role for Batman 3 if they cast the right person. So many people said to me that no one could be as good as Michael Keaton as Batman, but I think he met his match with Christian Bale, so why not a Joker recast? Part of being a comic fan is that you have to be open to different interpretations of characters and I wish people could be open to these transitions in the films as well. What do you guys think?
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Post by coliv1977 on Jun 19, 2010 20:00:03 GMT -5
I had an argument with a coworker who felt that no one else should ever play the Joker again. I felt this was silly because Joker is a character, not a memorial for an actor. Although I loved Heath's performance, I believe that another actor could step into the role for Batman 3 if they cast the right person. So many people said to me that no one could be as good as Michael Keaton as Batman, but I think he met his match with Christian Bale, so why not a Joker recast? Part of being a comic fan is that you have to be open to different interpretations of characters and I wish people could be open to these transitions in the films as well. What do you guys think? I understand your coworker's point of view. Yes, it is inevitable that someone, eventually will be recast as the joker; As I've said before: It just depends on that director's interpretation of the character. Nolan's/Heath's Joker would be waay too dark for Burton's movie and Nicholson's Joker would've been way too campy for Nolan's Batman universe. It depends on the character's universe... P.S. I have to strongly disagree with you about Bale/Keaton...Bale couldn't lace up Keaton's bat-boots, IMHO
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Post by twistedlaugh on Jun 19, 2010 23:57:48 GMT -5
I had an argument with a coworker who felt that no one else should ever play the Joker again. I felt this was silly because Joker is a character, not a memorial for an actor. Although I loved Heath's performance, I believe that another actor could step into the role for Batman 3 if they cast the right person. So many people said to me that no one could be as good as Michael Keaton as Batman, but I think he met his match with Christian Bale, so why not a Joker recast? Part of being a comic fan is that you have to be open to different interpretations of characters and I wish people could be open to these transitions in the films as well. What do you guys think? I understand your coworker's point of view. Yes, it is inevitable that someone, eventually will be recast as the joker; As I've said before: It just depends on that director's interpretation of the character. Nolan's/Heath's Joker would be waay too dark for Burton's movie and Nicholson's Joker would've been way too campy for Nolan's Batman universe. It depends on the character's universe... P.S. I have to strongly disagree with you about Bale/Keaton...Bale couldn't lace up Keaton's bat-boots, IMHO Yeah, Professor Crane pretty much said it all.
IMHO, it all depends on the director's choice if he wants to recast the role after the actor has died or to write the character out.
And please don't even get me started on Bale! He should have never been cast as Batman in the first place. I could list several different actors that would have done a much better job. Heck, I still think the role should be recast.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jun 20, 2010 0:03:44 GMT -5
I understand your coworker's point of view. Yes, it is inevitable that someone, eventually will be recast as the joker; As I've said before: It just depends on that director's interpretation of the character. Nolan's/Heath's Joker would be waay too dark for Burton's movie and Nicholson's Joker would've been way too campy for Nolan's Batman universe. It depends on the character's universe... P.S. I have to strongly disagree with you about Bale/Keaton...Bale couldn't lace up Keaton's bat-boots, IMHO Yeah, Professor Crane pretty much said it all.
IMHO, it all depends on the director's choice if he wants to recast the role after the actor has died or to write the character out.
And please don't even get me started on Bale! He should have never been cast as Batman in the first place. I could list several different actors that would have done a much better job. Heck, I still think the role should be recast.If this is just because of the voice, come on man.
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Post by coliv1977 on Jun 20, 2010 2:31:52 GMT -5
Yeah, Professor Crane pretty much said it all.
IMHO, it all depends on the director's choice if he wants to recast the role after the actor has died or to write the character out.
And please don't even get me started on Bale! He should have never been cast as Batman in the first place. I could list several different actors that would have done a much better job. Heck, I still think the role should be recast. If this is just because of the voice, come on man. Yes it is...I'm sorry!!!
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Post by twistedlaugh on Jun 20, 2010 16:12:14 GMT -5
If this is just because of the voice, come on man. Yes it is...I'm sorry!!! First of all, I am not a man!
Secondly, Sorry if I came of a little rude and pigheaded. I am just very picky on how my favorite comic book character of all time is portrayed. And I am pretty sure you guys can agree with that. In my opinion, the Batman voice is only the tip of the iceberg. To me, Bale just doesn't add anything interesting to the role, besides the ridiculous voice and the swagger. There are several points in Batman Begins and the Dark Knight where it feels like he just saying the lines and hoping it works. And to me there are several actors that would have done a much better job, but where not given that opportunity.
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Post by Dark Nightwing on Jun 21, 2010 9:37:17 GMT -5
To say that the Joker can never be done by another actor ever again is ludicrous. However, Nolan is making the right call by not recasting for the third film. I am fine with different interpretations of a character, but I think that if they did recast the Joker for this movie, it would come off as more of an imitation of Heath than and original interpretation. That being said, with the movie continuity it would be bad to recast because it would highlight the fact that the guy that did such a great job with the part before wasn't there.
I've personally enjoyed Bale's performance. I think people put Keaton up way too high for his Batman. It wasn't bad, but I don't think it was as good as people seem to remember.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jun 21, 2010 12:05:36 GMT -5
I've personally enjoyed Bale's performance. I think people put Keaton up way too high for his Batman. It wasn't bad, but I don't think it was as good as people seem to remember. Same.
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Post by Jack the Skull on Jun 21, 2010 21:12:46 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]^Me, I am on the fence. I like Bale as Batman, but yet I do think that someone else could have done an even better job.
As for Keaton, he may have not done a Academy Award worthy job. But he did bring some very interesting aspects to the character.[/shadow]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2010 9:57:11 GMT -5
If this is just because of the voice, come on man. Yes it is...I'm sorry!!! Ha ha ha! I had to snicker a couple of times at the voice too. Maybe they should re-release the movie with Conroy and Hamill voice overs.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jun 30, 2010 10:01:51 GMT -5
Ha ha ha! I had to snicker a couple of times at the voice too. Maybe they should re-release the movie with Conroy and Hamill voice overs. Conroy I could understand, but why Hamill? His voice doesn't work with Ledger's Joker.
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Post by jlavaia on Oct 13, 2010 22:24:05 GMT -5
according to Mark Millar, Tom Hardy is rumoured to play Killer Croc. while i'm all for Killer Croc in the movie and i think thats an awesome idea, Nolan may have gotten the absolute worst person for the role if this is true. Killer Croc is big, Tom Hardy is little. it doesnt quite add up. if this is true than it would seem that Batman 3 will be yet another third film in a comic trilogy to suffer from very poor casting. remember Spider-Man 3 when Topher Grace played Venom? this would basically equate to that. and if Killer Croc is going to be CGI or puppet as he should be anyway, i cant see Hardy's voice being best for the character either. though it would fit in with the rest of the cast and the previous movies. that seems to be Nolan's main theme, terrible voice acting.
all in all, i'd have to call this a doubtful rumour. i doubt Millar is all that connected in Hollywood. and definitely not enough to know casting details for a movie that isnt close to production yet.
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Post by twistedlaugh on Oct 14, 2010 23:47:18 GMT -5
After watching Hardy in Bronson, Inception, and Layer Cake. I think it's safe to say that he can pull off almost any role he wants.
None the less, if this rumor of the Killer Croc is true (Which I doubt it is considering the source) then does this mean we are going to see two reptile based villains in 2012?
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Post by Jack the Skull on Oct 15, 2010 16:11:38 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]I will eat my hat if this Killer Croc rumor is true. [/shadow]
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Post by DrGreenEvil on Oct 23, 2010 2:01:38 GMT -5
After watching him on Law and Order: UK...
I think Bill Paterson should play the Penguin. He just seems like he be a good Penguin, kinda in the vein of Burgess Meredith.
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Post by twistedlaugh on Oct 27, 2010 14:14:24 GMT -5
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Post by Batlaw on Oct 30, 2010 14:15:11 GMT -5
Lame title IMO. Im putting my money on Talia.
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Post by superbat on Nov 5, 2010 10:58:10 GMT -5
It's alright title. Hush or Black mask being villains would be welcome in my book.
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Post by aknox on Nov 9, 2010 12:42:20 GMT -5
It is going to be Talia. It just makes sense. Nolan is wrapping a story. I know there are going to be other villains in it, and frankly, I think Oswald Cobblepot (aka The Penguin) will be in there, more as an organized crime head, rather than a demented squaking moron. I think you have him, Ra's Talia, and maybe Catwoman involved in this whole thing.
Frankly, I'm disappointed as hell that Riddler isn't in it. My gut on this is that because Nolan is hellbent on concluding the story, Riddler in the story wouldn't have allowed for the conclusion with Al Ghul. And we all know Ra's isn't dead, and so does Nolan.
So we'll see how it shakes out. My take on Riddler (which I was going to re-work for an LoG Op-Ed until Riddler was axed by Nolan) was as a serial killer. It was Riddler, Cobblepot, with the love interest being Selina Kyle, with Batman hearing there is this cat burglar working her way around the city, and not putting two and two together until the very end.
I had the whole thing flushed out (I got carried away one evening and wrote the basis for an entire movie, lol) and it was a bummer to hear RIddler wouldn't be in it. But oh well, Nolan has done great so far, so I am going to roll with it and just assume he has something massively good planned. It's going to be hard to top TDK, so we'll see!
BTW - not sure if that prequel novel released prior to TDK is canon for the Nolan Universe (it was marketed as such), but Crock and Firefly were in it, I believe.
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Post by All Star Batman on Nov 23, 2010 19:18:17 GMT -5
I can't say I'm thrilled about the title. I would have gone with Shadow of the Bat.
Anyway, there's a new rumor that the film will feature Hugo Strange as the villain and will be based off the "Prey" storyline from Legends of the Dark Knight. I think it makes sense considering the character and overall story. Plus, Catwoman's in it that story, so maybe she'll be in the movie as well.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jan 19, 2011 12:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by batmanfan1 on Jan 19, 2011 16:37:53 GMT -5
Thats cool i cant wait too see this
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Post by DrGreenEvil on Jan 19, 2011 21:05:21 GMT -5
Anne Hathaway - YES!!!! Tom Hardy... I'll have to see. I have only seen him in Star Trek: Nemesis. He will have to get huge quick, though, won't he?
I kinda hope some more of the villain rumors come true. Deadshot and Hugo Strange were kinda exciting me.
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Post by batmanfan1 on Jan 19, 2011 21:30:52 GMT -5
Dr.Green. I would certainly hope he would get huge before the movie
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Post by twistedlaugh on Jan 20, 2011 17:33:36 GMT -5
Although I would have preferred Eva Green in the role, I think Anne Hathaway is going to do an amazing job! But personally, i am just happy Catwoman is going to be in the movie, hopefully she finally gets the respect she deserves!Tom Hardy... I'll have to see. I have only seen him in Star Trek: Nemesis. He will have to get huge quick, though, won't he? In the recent pics I have seen him in, he looks pretty big and muscular if I don't say so myself.
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Post by batmanfan1 on Jan 20, 2011 18:02:59 GMT -5
Yeah but he might want to get bigger tho
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Post by Hush Riddler on Jan 21, 2011 11:14:58 GMT -5
Long time no see for you all... I'm baaaaack! And yeah, I'm really looking forward to Bane... the movie never did him justice, and we never got a real look into him with the cartoons. I know that Nolan's gonna do an awesome job with Bane though
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