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Post by gotham95 on Feb 28, 2005 23:56:35 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]I'm very interested to see what Batgirl's costume will look like and I'm wishing that Huntress will be the friend turned villian.[/shadow]
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 1, 2005 9:11:23 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300] I'm wishing that Huntress will be the friend turned villian.[/shadow] That would be cool id like to see huntress
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 1, 2005 17:03:45 GMT -5
is there another friend turned bad cause i thought the friend turned villain was ethan
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Post by Disgruntled Gremlin on Mar 2, 2005 18:21:46 GMT -5
No way it'll be Huntress- Amy Acker will be playing her as a regular character on this season of JLU, so introducing another Huntress would complicate things way too much for networks to let it happen.
My money's on Lady Shiva- they did basically the same storyline in the Birds of Prey series, so it would be natural. Of course, it would be a decent origin for Spellbinder...
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 2, 2005 19:24:33 GMT -5
Maybe it'll be poison ivy? what about harley queen? i think spellbinder is going 2 be the male spellbinder but if its the girl it'll probably be her. lady shive would be likely but they're trying 2 do "they're own thing" and lady shive vs batgirl would be 2 comic-ish, except 4 this batgirl is barbara. a problem in that is that lady shiva would destroy barbara, unless this barbara is as good as cassandra which would mean she is a superskilled martial arts persom and stuff.
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Post by Green Ghost on Mar 3, 2005 6:25:22 GMT -5
Would be cool to see Ivy but as teenager But maybe it is the girlfriend of Gordon and is a good friend of Babs and then she find out that Ivy only use Gordon or so. I also think that it could be Shiva.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 3, 2005 17:53:27 GMT -5
Would be cool to see Ivy but as teenager But maybe it is the girlfriend of Gordon and is a good friend of Babs and then she find out that Ivy only use Gordon or so. I also think that it could be Shiva. poison ivy would look funny as a teenager but cool. i guess its the fact that all the characters in TAS and TNBA were in their 30s so i always imagine them in their 30s. whats weird is a teenage poison ivy flirting w/batman or bruce but hes not that old.
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Post by TAS on Mar 3, 2005 19:06:22 GMT -5
Batgirl is probaly only being introduced because they want to make an action figure of her. I mean after all the only reason Batgirl was in every episode of TNBA was because Kenner/Hasbro wanted to make Batgirl toys.
I mean obviously they have enough Batman villians that havent showed up in season 2 to the point where they dont have to fall back on Batgirl, ie Riddler, Poison Ivy, Ras A Ghul, Two Face, Killer Croc, and Scarecrow. Thats 6 chars, and animated seasons are generaly only 12 eps, so if all those chars where done they'd have half the season done, then 6 more eps to bring back villians from season 1 or create some more original chars, or use more obscure chars. I mean after all this is Batman "The Early Years" and introducing Batgirl now seems forced. Wouldnt seem outta place if it were Season 3 or something though.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 3, 2005 19:52:10 GMT -5
actually mattel is making the The Batman toys and they're scared 2 make female action figures. its called the mattel female-phobia. example: mattel is making like 50 jlu male action figures but only 2 female action figures. and have u noticed catwoman has not been made into an action figure? well, she has but shes an exclusive, which makes me want 2 murder mattel!! n*e*wayz honestly, i think that the only reason (which im ok with) batgirl is going 2 be in the show is because they're making their own timeline and stuff. besides, she doesnt sound like a sidekick, or at least /\/\att makes her sound like she isnt. and i hope she isnt
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Post by TAS on Mar 3, 2005 20:28:54 GMT -5
No, actually thats the way its always been in the toy industry, especialy with mass produced action figure lines. Female figures are rarely made because the companies dont believe the target audience, young boys wants them. Why do you think when they ship female action figures they only ship them one to a box or one to every two boxes? Female figures will always be the rarest and hardest to come by when it comes to action figure lines.
Mattel dosnt have a female phobia (they make Barbie after all) they and other companies just know (or think they knw) how the toy market.
Im pretty sure she isnt a sidekick, but Im pretty sure the reason for introducing her is because of the toys theres no other logical explanation, ie yeah they're making their own timeline but when press was being done for the first season they were talking about how this would basicly be "Batman Year One" and would just be focusing on Batman in his early years and not dealing with the sidekicks/the kids, now all of sudden they're contradicting themselves.
Years ago just before TNBA started, Wizard asked Dini, Timm, & Burnett why Batgirl was in every episode, they said because Kenner/Hasbro wanted to make a figure of her, ie Dini, Timm, and Burnett didnt even want her to be in every ep, yet they put her in, despite the fact that TNBA ended up having the smallest collection of figures compared to any of the other Batman toylines I can remember.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 3, 2005 21:38:42 GMT -5
well i guess ur right. i feel dumb now.lol. don't belittle me.lol. that was just my guess and hypothesis ;D well, i truely hope ur right so that mattel will make a Batgirl action figure and i really want one. thats an intersting fact. i noticed although she was on the show, she didnt talk much, she just stood there. like batman's shadow or something. I think that what they're trying to do w/this is that they want to introduce Batgirl in a totally different way as from the comics. i think they're trying 2 make her not "batman's shadow" and a different character like comissioner gordon which is an allie and close friend.
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Post by TAS on Mar 3, 2005 22:17:29 GMT -5
As far as the action figures go Im getting kinda tired of the way major companies do them, lets take The Batman figure line for an example (although youll be able to apply this to every Batman line) the company will if theres lets say 5 figures in a line 4 of them will be Batman variants and the 5th will be a villian or ally or whatever, when theres no need of that, at most there should 2 to 3 Batmans per line (if even that) then the others figures could be devoted other chars in the series, like anyone on the police force would be a good start, maybe Alfred too at some point, but of course we'll never see these figures because the company dosnt believe they'll sell, despite the fact these characters are appearing in basicly every episode.
DC Direct does some amazing work with their figures, and as obscure as they're getting now, Id like to see them attempt an DC Animated line, ie do a few figures based on Bruce Timm's animated designs, and even someones based on The Batman further down the line.
Also Mattel's prototype figure for The Batman looked amazing, which was used in the commercial for the toys. Matt also originaly had a picture of it in the banner for The Batman toy section, but unfortunatly neither the Zip Action Batman or Triple Shot Batman looked anywhere near as good as the prototype did (the heads are what are most notably diffrient) but Im getting way off topic now.
About Batgirl's role in the show she'll probaly be done the sameway they shouldve done Robin (for more on that see my thread in the fan art section)
Matt - Any chance you could put that prototype Batman pic up somewhere, like on the toy page or something?
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Post by jasontodd2 on Mar 4, 2005 0:05:29 GMT -5
[glow=blue,2,300]They should put Jason Todd in the show.[/glow] I second that. I think if Robin is introduced (BIG IF) why not bring in Jason Todd? We have seen Dick Grayson and we have seen Tim Drake. I would really be into seeing Jason Todd. But the issue at hand is Batgirl. Me personally I have never really been a big fan of hers, but with the way The Batman has gone with reinventing and introducing familar Batman heroes and villians I am anxious to see what they do and how it will all work out. A female friend turned Villian? Would they bring in The Spoiler for that?
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Post by TAS on Mar 4, 2005 1:05:25 GMT -5
Jason Todd was a punk and a jerk. He had no redeeming qualities or anything memorable (aside from his death) unlike Dick and Tim, like for instance can you think of anything specific or amazing that involved Jason other then his death? I mean lets not forget this is a character fans hated so much they killed him off, through a fan call in vote.
If they did introduce Jason into the show they'd intentionaly make him the way he was in the comics, annoying and unfit to be Robin, so people would actually want him to die.
One thing is for sure though, if Robin is introduced he should not ever be Batman's partner. I know of ways to do that tweaking Dick Grayson's or Tim Drake's origins.
Also if I remember correctly someone once asked Paul Dini why Jason Todd was never done in the animated series he did and why they went straight from Grayson to Drake. He said that nobody really ever cared about Todd aside from his famous death, and that most average fans arent that familiar with Todd and/or never even knew he existed.
There was an episode of TNBA that shows Jason Todd's Robin Memorial for a split second before it gets destroyed by stray gunfire. Although it was obviously just an Easter Egg.
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Post by jasontodd2 on Mar 4, 2005 13:37:47 GMT -5
Jason Todd was a punk and a jerk. He had no redeeming qualities or anything memorable (aside from his death) unlike Dick and Tim, like for instance can you think of anything specific or amazing that involved Jason other then his death? I mean lets not forget this is a character fans hated so much they killed him off, through a fan call in vote. Me personally I liked Jason Todd and too this day he will always be my favorite Robin. And why well he didn't fit the mold of Robin like Dick or Tim. I think if he had lived he would have made for some very interesting and great stories. When he was a Dick Grayson clone everybody excepted him, well me I thought it was very lame and when they revamped his origin to a street kid boosting tires off the Batmobile, that was great. He was rebellious and very angry, and unstable. I think my most memorable moment with Jason Todd was during another great Batman story (right up there with The Dark Knight Returns & The Killing Joke) The Cult. If not for Jason Todd who knows where Batman would be right now. It was Jason who helped Batman through it and brought Batman back to defeat Deacon! - sorry if we have gotten off topic a bit
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 4, 2005 15:25:24 GMT -5
im going to agree w/tas on this, i really dont like jason although i never read all of his story, i read most of it.
n*e*wayz i wasnt a big fan of the privious shows' version of batgirl and i hope this show does a better job.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 4, 2005 17:51:49 GMT -5
in the other shows (actually tnba) they drew her kind of weird. like she was all bendy. i hope they do a better job, and that she looks different not the usual.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 7, 2005 18:15:10 GMT -5
so the friend of batgirl was poison ivy. we say maybe but we never thought it would be her. cant wait 2 see some pics
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Post by Disgruntled Gremlin on Mar 7, 2005 21:04:35 GMT -5
I've gotta say, I can't wait to see how well the teenage dynamic will work out. Frankly, I don't think Bruce/Bats on his own is a strong enough personality on this show. Babs, especially if she's in high school, will bring some awesome attitude, and I'm DYING to see how the Ivy tension works out.
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Post by Green Ghost on Mar 8, 2005 7:31:55 GMT -5
I have very good feelings about the Batgirl/ Poison Ivy storyline. It is so cool that Ivy will be no on-episode-villain
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Post by Green Ghost on Mar 8, 2005 7:35:37 GMT -5
Do you know what just came to my mind: Batgirl/ Poison Ivy Figure Two-Pack But I think this is wishful thinking
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Post by Batboy on Mar 8, 2005 18:00:45 GMT -5
It would make the figures a lot easier to find ;D
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 8, 2005 19:40:59 GMT -5
Do you know what just came to my mind: Batgirl/ Poison Ivy Figure Two-Pack But I think this is wishful thinking it is wishful thinking, but its the best wishful thinking!! a batgirl and poison ivy 2pack would be the coolest thing
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Post by TAS on Mar 8, 2005 19:57:42 GMT -5
A two pack would be cool I guess, but then again when it comes to two packs, generaly only one of the figures ends up being diserable, while the other ends up sucking.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 8, 2005 20:23:02 GMT -5
yeah, thats true. if they do make them, i hope they're not excluisves like catwoman.their accessories better be good and they better not do what they did w/batman, that the 1st one had a big o' thing on his arm.
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Post by firefly25 on Mar 11, 2005 23:43:17 GMT -5
just as long as we get both of them im fine
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 22, 2005 22:07:55 GMT -5
This Batgirl/Poison Ivy thing sounds cool but are they going to be in the first part of season two or the second part? what i mean is that season two is seasons two and three joined together so the actual season two is the "first part" and season three is part "two"
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Post by firefly25 on Mar 23, 2005 13:56:09 GMT -5
This Batgirl/Poison Ivy thing sounds cool but are they going to be in the first part of season two or the second part? what i mean is that season two is seasons two and three joined together so the actual season two is the "first part" and season three is part "two" My thoughts are that they're going to be in the second part. Although i really wish that they could be in the first part because that would mean that we would see them soon and we would have to see a picture of them soon.
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 23, 2005 14:05:39 GMT -5
yeah it would be cool to see a picture soon. and i really want to see a picture of batgirl because i can't imagine her like how /\/\att descirbed her. i tried drawing his descriptions but she looked funny. when i drew her hair it looked like somebody out of some old 60s tv shows. then i tried drawing her hair like chloe from smallville and that kind of worked. another thoing is, i can't see "traditional" in the batman, the only traditional costume in this show is batman (and catwoman.)
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Post by azrael24 on Mar 23, 2005 15:11:35 GMT -5
i've been thinking about how they're going to introduce batgirl and comissioner gordon and i thought, maybe batgirl is supposed to be barbara making her father's job easier. and in this series comissioner gordon is trying to stop batman (from what i've heard/read.) hugo strange could also fit into this. the police is trying to stop batman and ellen yin might get fired for helping batman. then comes in the gordons. actually i don't know how to fit hugo strange in here but he could be fitted in here somehow.
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