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Post by reideen1313 on May 11, 2004 9:22:01 GMT -5
When Bruce finally decides to hang it up (like that will ever happen!), who should take over? Dick? Tim? Jean Paul? Spoiler? Alfred? Bullock?!?
Let's have some fun with this!
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Post by JokerInc on May 11, 2004 10:05:49 GMT -5
Someone new that we have never heard of!
Bruce has him hid away some where training him and making him as good as Bruce.
Dick approves of it and tell Bruce that he is doing the right thing.
Bruce runs the whole show form the Batcave, Alfred is dead, so Bruce takes over the role as "the keeper of the cave"
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Post by BullocK on May 11, 2004 10:09:09 GMT -5
Someone new that we have never heard of! Bruce has him hid away some where training him and making him as good as Bruce. Dick approves of it and tell Bruce that he is doing the right thing. Bruce runs the whole show form the Batcave, Alfred is dead, so Bruce takes over the role as "the keeper of the cave" [shadow=red,left,300]Interesting answer Joker...I like that idea. Personally, I always felt that Dick should take over the role. I thought he filled in quite nicely for Bruce after Jean Paul got dethroned.[/shadow] |
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Post by Kid L on May 11, 2004 12:40:25 GMT -5
bruce should just relocate the lazarus pit to the batcave and continue the mantle for centuries!!! he'd become even more of a legend than he is now... although, i guess that whole 'madness-after-rejuvenation' thing would be kinda troublesome...
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Post by Det27 on May 11, 2004 16:42:32 GMT -5
Batman's a character that replacements don't really work with. I've grown to like Wally West better than Barry Allen as the Flash(with Jay Garrick before him). Kyle Rayner isn't that bad. Dick Grason was cool as a fill in(kind of fullfilling the role of the sidekick, which Wally West is the only one ever to real do so). But Batman, Superman, and Spiderman, off the top of my head, are character where the alter-ego is as important or more so than the costume, M.O., and power set. I stopped reading Batman shortly after Jean Paul Valley took over, except for Legends of the Dark Knight. Elseworlds and things like Batman Beyond are fun, but to ever try to permenantly replace Bruce in the comics is a mistake.
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Post by reideen1313 on May 11, 2004 18:05:33 GMT -5
I'm all for suspending belief when reading comics - heck most of the concepts are just plain not natural in most superhero books. However, I think there will come a time when, Bruce will have aged enough to warrant a replacement. For my money, I think it should be Tim. He has the deductive reasoning down - much better than Dick ever did. Physically, he may not be as much of a force as Dick is though. I think that's where his brain will come in again - better Bat-gadgets and all - y'know? As for sidekicks that have replaced the originals, you're right - Wally is about the only one. Speedy has changed to Arsenal and really isn't interested in being GA, Connor on the other hand, when I last read the book, would be able to step into Ollie's shoes nicely - as he did while Oliver was "dead". Starman was replaced by not one son, but two. Even Sandman was replaced (although the character has changed significantly) by Sandy. Hourman has been replaced by both his son and an android, both of which are true to the original character. I'm sure there are more examples - I just don't want to go thru my DC Who's Who right now.  |
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Post by Batboy on May 11, 2004 19:32:15 GMT -5
Tim should take over as Batman for sure! I think Tim should train with batman until Batman finally decides that it is time for him to retire. By then Tim will be as good if not better then Bruce.
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Post by Faithfulbutler on May 11, 2004 20:35:19 GMT -5
It is a tough call,Dick definitely has the physical attributes,but Tim has the intelligence and logical reasoning to handle the detective side of things.Hell he figure out who their secret identities were.
I figure if you kept nurturing Tims fighting prowess to match his brains he would make a great replacement.
Not that it will ever happen.
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Post by Kid L on May 11, 2004 21:32:29 GMT -5
so if tim took over the mantle, who'd become the new robin? spoiler? now that'd be a dynamic duo like no other...
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on May 11, 2004 21:37:30 GMT -5
[glow=purple,2,300]I don't know, Tim would make a good Batman...but I'll go with Dick. I think he's the first and still the best choice to make the transition to Batman.[/glow]
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Post by Batboy on May 11, 2004 23:39:11 GMT -5
so if tim took over the mantle, who'd become the new robin? spoiler? now that'd be a dynamic duo like no other... I think Tim would find a new Robin just like Bruce found Tim. |
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Post by The Dinoboy Wonder! on May 12, 2004 0:33:13 GMT -5
there should be more than one batman, like the batwoman thing.
One is the brains, the other one's the brawn...or something.
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Post by Darknight on May 12, 2004 11:35:07 GMT -5
there should be more than one batman, like the batwoman thing. One is the brains, the other one's the brawn...or something. You said exactly what I was thinking. Currently there are no characters that have the diverse talents the Bruce has. Essentially it would be a team of people to replace Bruce. All of the sidekicks have qualities that Bruce has they are just more focused on a particular quality. Dick - the heir apparent lacks the detective skills, but has more than the physical strength required. Tim - pretty much the opposite of Dick. He has detective skills that could someday surpass Bruce's, but he could never match the physical abilities. Jean Paul - Isn't he dead? Whatever happened to him. He has a lot of physical skill, but Dick could probably beat him. Stephanie Brown (Spoiler) - Her greatest skills are youth and determination. She has been rejected several times and still wants to fight crime. That is some serious determination. Combine them together and you get Batman. I don't see how any one of them could ever step into the suit. |
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Post by Det27 on May 12, 2004 15:50:23 GMT -5
Tim Drake doesn't have the drive anymore. Even suspending disbelief, he sought out Batman kind of for fun. Unlike Bruce and Dick, no great tragedy seems to drive him. Though there are other heroes not driven by tragedy(Superman, The Flash, Wonder Woman), it's kind of a prerequisite to be Batman. His mother was killed, but they've never touched on that again since.
Dick's the only one I could buy.
As for aging, Bruce has been Batman since 1939, so they can deage and revamp him for another 50 years.
Spoiler I don't get as the fight doesn't seem personal to her, either. Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl and the Huntress were all drawn into being vigilantes for very personal reasons and after the death of family. Batgirl more atoning for her and her father's sins. Revenge or avenging their loved ones. Neither Tim Drake or Stephanie Brown(who's atoning for a poor man's Riddler?) have that, and I've always had a hard time seeing why Batman would keep either around.
I wish Tim Drake had been made more like the Jason Todd/Tim Drake hybrid seen in the cartoon. An orphan who does have a grudge against criminals.
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Post by Det27 on May 12, 2004 15:51:46 GMT -5
All of that aside, Huntress would be a very interesting replacement.
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Post by JokersGalPal on May 13, 2004 16:48:08 GMT -5
bruce should just relocate the lazarus pit to the batcave and continue the mantle for centuries!!! he'd become even more of a legend than he is now... although, i guess that whole 'madness-after-rejuvenation' thing would be kinda troublesome... |
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Post by Punisher on May 13, 2004 17:03:45 GMT -5
After the most recent issue of Nightwing, it looks like he won't be a canidate any longer.
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Post by MANBAT on May 16, 2004 8:15:12 GMT -5
The sub-story begins shortly after events in 1988, a graveyard on a rainy night, two shadowy figures digging up a grave, lighting flashes...Jason Todd's name shines on the headstone...fade to black
( I may have been the only person to call in and try to save this boy in 88) Idea inspired by Batman Begins.
Jason is reborn through the Lazarus pit and trained for years by Ras, to eventualy kill the Dark Detective. After long years of training, JT finds our hero, doing what he does best bringing vengence to the innocent in a dark alley, Confrontation and disbelief ensue, after a long fight , JT gets the upper hand on our hero, but a glimmer of doubt causes him to pause for a moment, that moment cost him the fight, Bruce gets the upper hand, wins.... fade to the Batcave
It takes almost two years for Bruce to undo all the Brain washing caused by the Demons Head but Jason is back and better than ever....Bruce hands the cowl over to the boy who was killed by the criminal element only to be reborn as Batman!
Just my idea.......of course I'm a big fan of Dark Knight returns and in that series Alfred tells Bruce to remember what happen to Jason, so my explanation to go with that continum would be that after serving many years in a heroic capacity as Batman, as irony and fate would have Jason lost his life many years later to the Joker while preventing a global scale destruction.
GIve the boy some love.......anyone coming back from the dead would make a great story
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Post by Robin on May 16, 2004 17:52:20 GMT -5
I think that I would be a pretty good replacement.  Tim has all the detective skills. But he would have to train for along time to get greater physical ability. |
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Post by Det27 on May 21, 2004 14:57:31 GMT -5
How about Kon-El, Superboy?
He's half Luthor/half Superman after the Titans retcon. That would give him a dark edge. As he's super-powered, Batman wouldn't be endagering anymore children.
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Post by RevMarc on May 28, 2004 0:20:03 GMT -5
Lets face it--no one, and I mean no one, could possibly be the Batman other than Bruce.
Dick did a good job for a while, but he couldn't handle it for long.
Tim is smart, but...no.
Jean Paul, he's just dead. Thank goodness.
The Kingdom Come storyline, IMHO, covered it best: Batman manages a cadre of Bat-Sentinels to protect Gotham from the confines of the Batcave. He couldn't trust anyone else to do it. remember, self-reliance is the one constant in Batman's life. He can't completely trust anyone--therefore, how could he trust one individual to carry on his mission?
Besides if we have to, just start over again. Anyone else here old enough to remember 1986? Or, to some degree, Zero Hour?
My 2 cents...
Marcus
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Post by Blackwing on Jun 2, 2004 16:24:22 GMT -5
Someone new that we have never heard of! Bruce has him hid away some where training him and making him as good as Bruce. Dick approves of it and tell Bruce that he is doing the right thing. Bruce runs the whole show form the Batcave, Alfred is dead, so Bruce takes over the role as "the keeper of the cave" Bravo ;D |
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Post by /\/\att on Jun 3, 2004 9:40:34 GMT -5
Someone new that we have never heard of! Bruce has him hid away some where training him and making him as good as Bruce. Dick approves of it and tell Bruce that he is doing the right thing. Bruce runs the whole show form the Batcave, Alfred is dead, so Bruce takes over the role as "the keeper of the cave" [shadow=green,left,300]so.....Batman Beyond? lol[/shadow] |
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Post by JokerInc on Jun 3, 2004 19:04:11 GMT -5
Thank you |
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Post by JokerInc on Jun 3, 2004 19:11:18 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]so.....Batman Beyond? lol[/shadow] Kind of like it, but not 100%. Instead of a older kid who knows how to pretty much fight already and needs a high tech suit to make it, this is someone who bruce has kept hidden away for the past 20 years or so, training him to know EVERYTHING that Bruce knows holding nothing back to make him just as good or better then bruce. DC could do a whole series on him, an orgin of the New Batman. |
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Post by Kid L on Jun 4, 2004 21:27:46 GMT -5
Kind of like it, but not 100%. Instead of a older kid who knows how to pretty much fight already and needs a high tech suit to make it, this is someone who bruce has kept hidden away for the past 20 years or so, training him to know EVERYTHING that Bruce knows holding nothing back to make him just as good or better then bruce. DC could do a whole series on him, an orgin of the New Batman. i'd be into that idea if, instead of just recruiting some kid, bruce cloned himself and raised his clone w/the appropriate training and education... i'm sure some of you are going to hate this idea, but i think it's pretty cool... ;D |
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Post by reideen1313 on Jun 4, 2004 21:54:32 GMT -5
and they could name him Ben instead of Bruce!  |
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Post by Ralph Nigma on Jun 14, 2004 13:26:54 GMT -5
It should be me.
WHAT? Don't look at me like that!
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Post by PPAIN aka Michael on Jun 14, 2004 19:41:35 GMT -5
Lets face it--no one, and I mean no one, could possibly be the Batman other than Bruce. Dick did a good job for a while, but he couldn't handle it for long. Tim is smart, but...no. Jean Paul, he's just dead. Thank goodness. The Kingdom Come storyline, IMHO, covered it best: Batman manages a cadre of Bat-Sentinels to protect Gotham from the confines of the Batcave. He couldn't trust anyone else to do it. remember, self-reliance is the one constant in Batman's life. He can't completely trust anyone--therefore, how could he trust one individual to carry on his mission? Besides if we have to, just start over again. Anyone else here old enough to remember 1986? Or, to some degree, Zero Hour? My 2 cents... Marcus [glow=purple,2,300]You have a point here. And while all of the members of the Bat-family are good choices, I think that the Kingdom Come saga may have answered this question the best. Because lets face it, no one really wants to see anyone in the Bat suit (even if it's a robotic one) other than Bruce. [/glow] |
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Post by BruceBatman on May 27, 2007 13:06:11 GMT -5
We shall not say those kind of things!
Batman will never hang up the cowl!
Okay, okay I give up!
I never want it to happen but it will eventually!
Matt had a good point that I never would have thought of! Batman Beyond (McGuiness)!
I mean come on it's a no brainer that I didn't think of!
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