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Post by Arsenal on Dec 29, 2004 20:07:07 GMT -5
Just to throw something else in the loop, I think Huntress may have had a deeper role in the story. She did work with Elliot and the others. She got new gear out of the deal. There's also the emphasis that is made (more than once, I might add) that Huntress is good, better than even she knows. Maybe Jeph's giving us a hint of some kind.
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Post by HUSH on Jan 1, 2005 2:53:36 GMT -5
After reading more about Red Hood, I've come to think that he will, in fact, be revealed as JT, and Hush wil be Harvey Dent. And that would be fine.
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Post by theheckler on Jan 1, 2005 6:06:47 GMT -5
just a wild idea of mine really, something i thought about when reading Hush.
This may sound so stupid but, has anyone thought that Tommy may have been involved with the murder of Bruces parents, not physically u understand but he may have enlisted the mugger who killed them.
perhaps this is the mad on that the Riddler is alluding to, the death of tommys father and the survival of his mother. Perhaps Tommy engineered the "accident"
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Post by JotaEse on Jan 1, 2005 11:23:00 GMT -5
That, in fact, would have a MAJOR Bat-impact, and change a lot....
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Post by jasontodd2 on Jan 1, 2005 15:03:34 GMT -5
I hope it turns out to be Jason Todd, for a couple of reasons:
1. He was my favorite Robin and it was a rip how DC allowed the fans to vote him out
2. There is so much more you could do with Jason Todd returning back into Batman's life, than say with Harvey Dent.
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Post by HUSH on Jan 1, 2005 15:08:30 GMT -5
There is so much more you could do with Jason Todd returning back into Batman's life, than say with Harvey Dent. Good point...
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Post by jasontodd2 on Jan 1, 2005 16:46:10 GMT -5
Good point... Thanks. I was one of the guys that wanted Jason Todd to live, and it was a terrible idea to get rid of him with that phone in thing. He was a loose cannon and had a bit of a mysterious past that was slowly coming to the front. With his attitude and his reckless behaviour it would have made for some great storylines. What if he had lived? He would have been out of action for some time, but eventually would have found his way back, and maybe he would have adjusted his "Tude" but then again maybe he wouldn't have, and it would have been interesting to see him go up against The Joker for the first time....oh well what could have been...
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Post by JokersGalPal on Jan 1, 2005 18:49:53 GMT -5
This may sound so stupid but, has anyone thought that Tommy may have been involved with the murder of Bruces parents, not physically u understand but he may have enlisted the mugger who killed them. perhaps this is the mad on that the Riddler is alluding to, the death of tommys father and the survival of his mother. Perhaps Tommy engineered the "accident" [shadow=purple,left,300]I've been reading a lot of these theories from time to time and this one...just blows my mind!
It doesn't sound stupid at all. Its out there, but I really like it. Heckler...you're gonna make me think about this all day ;D[/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 2, 2005 4:28:57 GMT -5
just a wild idea of mine really, something i thought about when reading Hush. This may sound so stupid but, has anyone thought that Tommy may have been involved with the murder of Bruces parents, not physically u understand but he may have enlisted the mugger who killed them. perhaps this is the mad on that the Riddler is alluding to, the death of tommys father and the survival of his mother. Perhaps Tommy engineered the "accident" [shadow=green,left,300]An interesting theory heckler...but you have to pretty much assume at this point that Tommy never was Hush and the story about him crafting his own parent's death was a fabrication. That whole story always struck me as kinda lame and contrived anyhow..Tommy really never had a legit motive...he was just secretly evil?! Gimme a break DC! lol. The real question is ...who IS hush at this point?! I really don't think its Jason..I'm pretty damn sure he's Red Hood....we'll know in a few months for sure![/shadow]
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 5, 2005 0:08:24 GMT -5
while i dont think that Jason Todd should be Hush it would be interesting to see him resurrected if only to see the joker wipe him out again ;D i do think that hush being the 3rd personality of harvey is an excellent idea especially the premise of hush knowing the secrets but two face still being in the dark thats brilliant!!!
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Post by gotham95 on Jan 6, 2005 2:28:11 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Well if Hush is Harvey, then who was the man in Batman 619 who shows up with Gordon and saves Batman from the bandaged Hush?[/shadow]
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 6, 2005 2:33:33 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Well if Hush is Harvey, then who was the man in Batman 619 who shows up with Gordon and saves Batman from the bandaged Hush?[/shadow] [shadow=green,left,300]aww that's easy...I addressed it in the very first post of this thread...that Hush on the bridge wasn't hush at all..it was clayface[/shadow] [shadow=green,left,300] as for the meeting on the bridge at the end of the Hush arc? Clayface was involved..hence why the body disappeared when it hit the water....[/shadow]
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Post by HUSH on Jan 6, 2005 2:43:10 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]aww that's easy...I addressed it in the very first post of this thread...that Hush on the bridge wasn't hush at all..it was clayface[/shadow] But what if the bald Harvey was Clayface instead? *SPOILER* in GK #60, Hush is shown to have scars all over his body, so if he is Harvey, and he had shown up at Gordon's house and shot the Hush on the bridge, he would have been all scarred. That is why I think Clayface was pretending to be Harvey all along, and the real Harvey was and is Hush. That is, if Harvey is in fact Hush in the first place.
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Post by /\/\att on Jan 6, 2005 2:50:48 GMT -5
But what if the bald Harvey was Clayface instead? *SPOILER* in GK #60, Hush is shown to have scars all over his body, so if he is Harvey, and he had shown up at Gordon's house and shot the Hush on the bridge, he would have been all scarred. That is why I think Clayface was pretending to be Harvey all along, and the real Harvey was and is Hush. That is, if Harvey is in fact Hush in the first place. [shadow=green,left,300]Interesting... ...but correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't see a lot of Harvey with his shirt off in Hush do we? So he could've had the scars. All that scarring couldn't have come just from the bridge accident...its not said when or where he got them from. So it could still easily have been the real Harvey and Clayface as Hush.....[/shadow]
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Post by gotham95 on Jan 6, 2005 2:51:55 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Unless he got scarred up inbetween stories. Something else bothering me is HUSH stitched up Prometheus who was badly hurt some issues before War Games in Gotham Knights. Trade of a doctor. The suspense is frustrating.[/shadow]
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Post by HUSH on Jan 6, 2005 2:54:25 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]Interesting... ...but correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't see a lot of Harvey with his shirt off in Hush do we? So he could've had the scars. All that scarring couldn't have come just from the bridge accident...its not said when or where he got them from. So it could still easily have been the real Harvey and Clayface as Hush.....[/shadow] Yes, I think it could be either way.
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Post by HUSH on Jan 6, 2005 2:56:51 GMT -5
Although what I'm thinking is that Harvey could have given those scars to himself as part of his new persona. Just a thought. There are a few things that don't make sense about any of this, but I'm sure the writers will tie up all the loose ends in the end.
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Post by gotham95 on Jan 6, 2005 3:01:06 GMT -5
Although what I'm thinking is that Harvey could have given those scars to himself as part of his new persona. Just a thought. There are a few things that don't make sense about any of this, but I'm sure the writers will tie up all the loose ends in the end. [shadow=blue,left,300]Since Jason's body is missing from HUSH story, is there a connection between Red Hood? and Hush? What was Lex Luthor's angle? Was Catwoman a pawn too? remember her telling Batman to "hush"? How did Harvey get his license re-instated from the state? Who did the surgery on Prometheus in Gotham Knights? etc[/shadow]
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 6, 2005 4:11:33 GMT -5
this a great discussion so many excellent theories its really got me thinking
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Post by JokersGalPal on Jan 7, 2005 0:43:02 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]Was Catwoman a pawn too? remember her telling Batman to "hush"?[/shadow] [shadow=purple,left,300]Thank You.
I felt like a fool mentioning that detail whenever I'd talk to others about Hush's mystery. They'd usually just wave it off [/shadow]
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Post by gotham95 on Jan 7, 2005 5:33:29 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]I think that HUSH was such a complex story on a grand scale that I bet we will see ramifications and plot twists for years to come.[/shadow]
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 7, 2005 6:54:53 GMT -5
i think its safe to say that we will see plenty of ramifications from HUSH for quite some time did any1 really think it was finished when dc said it was?No?didnt think so us bat fans are smarter than that
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Post by JotaEse on Jan 7, 2005 11:44:25 GMT -5
I read soomewhere where Loeb said many times it WASN'T finished...MOST of the time if a comic series is finished and wraps things up...that's a bad series. Really....the end should make us want more. Hush did with everyone...no one left fully satisfied. Everyone loved the story,but wanted more. Identity Crisis-same, and Meltzer & DC have said all along "This is chapter one." If GL Rebirth provided a nice ending that didn't leave some things open and people wanting more, there would be no need for the new GL comic coming out later. If the newest issues of TT didn't leave A LOT open why would we buy it? It's the way of comics, and one thing I love...except when they leave it dangling forever, but that was in a thread a few months ago....
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Post by Nightwing50187 on Jan 18, 2005 12:10:50 GMT -5
could what happened in the gotham knights arc with joker possibly be jason getting back at him? that is if hush is Jason.
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Post by JotaEse on Jan 19, 2005 16:51:20 GMT -5
Could Hush be Red Hood?
Could Hush STILL be Tommy Elliott, or be Toimmy and? I read GK 60...and that is unlikely, but it could be part of "the game". No new clues in DK 61.
The Game was a good movie I'd suggest to anyone, FYI.
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Post by reideen1313 on Jan 21, 2005 9:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 21, 2005 11:41:12 GMT -5
That was an interesting interview,i really liked when prometheus took out the league and the large role he played in WW3 so the idea of him and hush together kinda works for me and the idea that their relationship is strained makes it even better
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Post by Jancel on Jan 23, 2005 17:42:24 GMT -5
I went back and looked and "Tommy" never calls Alfred by his name or acknowledges that he knows him.
Of course, Hush calls the prisoner Tommy a few pages later.
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Post by LAngeloMisterio on Jan 25, 2005 20:50:51 GMT -5
Gee, I really like this thread. I won't be reading "Hush" until next march (it will be coming out in a local edition). But after reading all this comments, I can't wait!!!
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Post by Preacher on Jan 25, 2005 22:17:34 GMT -5
The loose ends will eventually be tied up soon enuff. I reread HUSH again today. There's gonna be a sequel. Maybe not for a few years but it's such a moneymaker DC wouldn't pass it up. Hopefullly it'll be done by Lee and Loeb. Good stuff.
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