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Post by beyondreal on Jul 14, 2005 17:05:23 GMT -5
As new rumors fly about Bruce dying and someone else being batman, cud u live with some1 else being batman?
Personally i always thoguht dick at some point wud take over would be kinda kool he cud marry babs and be a team lol, maybe move out of the big mansion.
It would def be a gd chance for something fresh to happen.
As for how batman should meet his end i would like to see Jason do it, maybe batman stab him before he shoots batman i think would make a gd ending.
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Post by Arkham16 on Jul 14, 2005 17:32:03 GMT -5
Bruce is Batman.
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Post by gotham95 on Jul 14, 2005 17:50:20 GMT -5
Can't see it. I know Dick will be a great Batman but that's the way I like it; knowing that it will happen but it never does beacuse Bruce is here.
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Post by greg on Jul 14, 2005 18:03:39 GMT -5
yeah, Bruce is definitely Batman. he can't die/age or give up. and i think if he does die, it should be him against the Joker, and they should kill each other. after reading Hush and the Killing Joke, it would seem fitting.
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Post by HUSH on Jul 14, 2005 21:04:50 GMT -5
When Bruce eventually dies, it's true that someone else will have to continue the mission, but I don't want to ever see that happen in the comics. It's hard enough to have temporary replacements like Azrael. Bruce should always be Batman for us.  |
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Post by greg on Jul 14, 2005 23:08:59 GMT -5
yeah he should live forever.   maybe in elseworlds. |
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Post by beyondreal on Jul 15, 2005 2:26:09 GMT -5
i really think there gonna get rid of bruce simply cos if we want a bruce batman or anything classic we can go to all star now from some of the comments made by DC it sounds like there using all star to please everyone and so that they can change anything they want in the main books.
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Post by greg on Jul 15, 2005 10:53:18 GMT -5
they haven't touched him 60 years, why start now?  i dunno if i want to read it if its not the 'real' Batman. |
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Post by beyondreal on Jul 15, 2005 11:15:04 GMT -5
they havnt touched him in 60 years cos they havnt had a out of countinuty comic like all star. Look at all the major changes made already to alot of the villains.
With all star there basically free to change anything in the main comics although im thinking they will wait until all star is established with its main characters and has shown a majority of the villians.
Alothugh Bruce is batman i think that a big change like Bruce dieing could actually give the batman main titles a new life, the big question though is who would take over? Azrael was a horrible choice to replace batman cos he didnt stand for what batman did but if we got a chracter who was much closer to being like Bruce or even more dedicated it could work.
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 15, 2005 11:15:05 GMT -5
 NO FREAKING WAY! BRUCE WAYNE IS THE BATMAN! DC has to think about the future. If kids read comics with someone else is Batman and watch cartoons, movies, and shows and read old comics with Bruce Wayne as the Bat, they'll be confused. And you don't see Marvel killing off Spider-Man do you? Wayne has been Batman for 60 freaking years and if they kill him off and have a new Batman, I will actualy BOYCOTT Batman! Who's with me on this?
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Post by jasontodd2 on Jul 15, 2005 20:40:21 GMT -5
The day Bruce Wayne is killed off (which is a stretch and I don't see happening) is the day I stop collecting Batman comics, besides they already tried that with Knightfall and we all saw what happened with that. So I think it is safe to say Bruce Wayne will be around for a very long time
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Post by /\/\att on Jul 16, 2005 1:16:31 GMT -5
I honestly feel that Bruce is Batman. I don't know if the Batman legend will live on after him. If it does, I think Batgirl Cassie Cain is the only one with a shot in hell of keeping up the reputation. Dick has too many of his own issues going on...and he doesn't really want to live in the shadow of the bat. Cassie, however, has expressed that its her goal.
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Post by banzaiboy on Jul 16, 2005 3:39:03 GMT -5
Bruce is Batman, never felt right when they had other characters replacing him...if anything, I think there would be a backlash if it ever happens. We would be reeling from it perhaps like the whole spider-clone saga thing...ack!  (vVv) |
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Post by beyondreal on Jul 16, 2005 9:56:10 GMT -5
Well im sorta torn cos right now i read the batman comics and its already changed so much from what it was it dosntr really seem to fit batman anymore, batman seems to be getting very old in the main books, Gordon is gone and there is far to many people who help him who dont seem to go with him. it feels as though they are jsut keeping batman bruce cos of the fans and placing him into a world where he jsut dosnt go with. Im not sure changing Bruce is the answer but maybe.
As for who could take up being batman i knw this might be a long shot but what about if jason and bruce sort things out and he became batman that would be cool, hes basically a younger more angry bruce.
Another thing about the main world now is that the storys always now invlove almsot all main plot conversations going thoguh orcale for me it jsut seems like a way of how to quickly get boring conversations out of the way that if they actually thoguht about it could be interesting.
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Post by jlavaia on Jul 18, 2005 15:18:11 GMT -5
I honestly feel that Bruce is Batman. I don't know if the Batman legend will live on after him. If it does, I think Batgirl Cassie Cain is the only one with a shot in hell of keeping up the reputation. Dick has too many of his own issues going on...and he doesn't really want to live in the shadow of the bat. Cassie, however, has expressed that its her goal. i'm with you there Matt. Bruce is Batman to the end. and if they DC decides to do something stupid like kill him, then the only way i'd continue reading Batman would be if Cassandra took on the mantle. but there's no way you can kill off Bruce now, especially the way they have been leaning toward Kingdom Come happening. i mean they Made Northwind identical to the KC Hawkman and Atom Smasher came out of Kingdom Come. no, Bruce isn't going anywhere. |
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Post by NAMTAB on Jul 18, 2005 16:13:52 GMT -5
Bruce Wayne will always be Batman, I believe that if they change it, it will only be for a specific story, but the truth is that the one and only Batman will always be Bruce.
with that said i think it would be interesting to see the natural heir to the mantle of the bat, Dick Grayson, take over for sometime, believing bruce is really dead and now it"s his responsability to protect Gotham and continue the legend of Batman, I even believe all his recent internal issues about not being good enough are leading to that.
I don't think Cassandra is a strong enough character to take over, the only other Bat I would accept (and that just temporarily) would be Dick.
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Post by Batlaw on Jul 18, 2005 16:47:01 GMT -5
By the wording of the poll I choose Bruce, yet I would choose Dick as his only successor.
I'm sure Bruce passing (litterally or figuratively) will not likely take place within at least my lifetime. Which I'm more than happy with! Bruce is and will always be THE BATMAN! Period.
In all reality though, he would have to eventually be replaced. Just as (like it or not / God forbid) Alfred simply must die at some point. I dont ever want to see either happen, but its unavoidable even under the comic universe timeline where characters age a year for every decade lol.
IMO Grayson is the only acceptable heir to the Bat-throne. Accept no substitutes! Batgirl, while capable and cool, should always be Batgirl. Bruce has plenty of time still to go, which gives Dick plenty of time to "come around" / "full circle". I think the whole "out from behind Bats shadow" has run its course and he's done what he set out to do (establish himself as his own man).
Its obvious and perhaps a bit simple and silly, but in the event of Bruce's passing, my perfect Bat-world would be: Dick Grayson (as Bruce's legal heir and adoptive son) is awarded the Wayne fortune and returns to the mansion where he takes up the mantle of the Bat.
Dick is married to Barbara who continues to help with the good fight as Oracle (formal or informally) from the cave and essentially filling the void left by Alfred.
Batgirl is now in the Nightwing role as oldest psudo child / Bat-soldier-Lieutenant.
Tim Drake is essentially retired but remains faithful and returns to the costume from time to time as needed. Either as a new Nightwing (in honor of his big bro) or as an adult styled Robin? (havnt decided what I prefer?). Always a posibility for a new Robin as well, and Jean Paul could certainly play a role as partner or perhaps even an antagonist? ? Maybe as Dick's Joker / arch-nemesis? or maybe that should/could be Jason Todd!?
Of course there is always to for them to incorporate a new heir for Bruce, but at this point, I doubt that could be done as well or work as perfectly as Grayson even if it's Bruces blood.
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Post by Tyson1990 on Jul 18, 2005 18:13:17 GMT -5
I just couldn't see anyone other than Bruce being Batman. I f Bruce DOES die that will definantly suck big time.
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Post by Violator on Jul 20, 2005 11:05:22 GMT -5
I can deal with Bruce not being Batman only in an Elsewords or Future story. Other than that Bruce has to be Batman. Batman isnt just some guy with a cape and cowl, Bruce's experiences are what makes him Batman.
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Post by greg on Jul 22, 2005 13:26:22 GMT -5
i think things have chnaged a lot, but i think they should stop with the huge changes! bring back Gordon! and can anyone tell me the story with Alfred, he was gone in the Bruce Wayne Murderer story, but back in Hush?  |
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Post by All Star Batman on Jul 30, 2005 21:17:15 GMT -5
I'm not totally agreeing on this, but they could have Bruce retire(not killed) and bring TERRY McGINNIS into the comics from the show. Hey, they did it with Harley.
But, come on, BRUCE WAYNE IS THE BATMAN! If they were gonna kill him off they would've done it during Knightfall.
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Post by greg on Jul 31, 2005 17:03:10 GMT -5
Dick might be a good succesor, but i don't think hed be 'Batman' per se. he'd probably keep his Nightwing persona, or get a different interpretation of Batman. but it should stay Bruce. and if it is Cassandra, it wouldn't be Batman would it? it would be Batwoman or some such. which i don't think i like. point is it should stay Bruce.
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Post by reideen1313 on Aug 1, 2005 16:22:30 GMT -5
Don't know yet if this is related or not.
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Post by All Star Batman on Aug 2, 2005 20:22:41 GMT -5
Don't know yet if this is related or not. uh oh. They can't do this. If they kill off Bruce and replace him, ANYTHING THAT IS BATMAN IS DEAD TO ME! |
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Post by ttiger72 on Aug 2, 2005 20:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by arkhaminmate on Aug 2, 2005 22:48:51 GMT -5
No way in hell is this gonna happen BRUCE IS THE BATMAN. I'm with Batman 1990. But they already tried replacing him in Knightfall, & Dick Grayson took over in Prodgidal. But No one can replace Bruce. I have noticed the changes in the villians. But they're not going to kill off Bruce. & Jason Todd is dead. The Jason in Hush was just Clayface. & in As The Crow Flies Jason was a halussination. No other Bats! EVER! |
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Post by Batlaw on Aug 3, 2005 10:58:58 GMT -5
Whats with all the backlash? I cant imagine ANYONE here or otherwise honestly believes such an "event" would be a permanant thing!? Have a little faith! Its just another Batman story that, judging by recent events and adventures, has the chance to really rock us all!
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Post by ttiger72 on Aug 3, 2005 12:52:45 GMT -5
Simply because they are putting Brucewith those that he has put there. I don't like the story at all, it really seems unbelievable as Bruce has many times come and gone at Arkham without being noticed, so why can he not do it now? It doesn't make much sense, and I don't like it.
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Post by reideen1313 on Aug 3, 2005 13:16:31 GMT -5
Ok. First of all, none of us has read the story, so it's tough to judge it simply based on rumor and speculation. Second, we have no idea what the exact events leading up to this storyline are. We're gonna have to wait 'til Crisis for that. I understand that many fans won't be happy about this change - just like they weren't happy when Superman died or Batman had his back broken. Is this going to be a permanent change? My $$ is on NO. These are comics. The only constants are Bucky and Jason Todd are dead and never will come back. Everything else changes. Wait a minute.....did I say Jason Todd?? Seriously, before screaming about how bad it's going to be or threatening to start an online petition (because we all know how well those work), give the book and the writers a chance. I've been pleased with events leading up to this so far. I'm willing to give them a chance to tell another good story. Are you? |
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