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Post by JokerFC on Jan 28, 2005 9:42:52 GMT -5
Exactly when was the last time Blue Beetle was seen? And he probably trained with Batman during there Justice League days. I too would imagine that blue beetle and other non super powered types trained with batman i alsothink it may have been referenced in Panic in the Sky when bats is in charge of the ground team although im not sure of that |
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Post by reideen1313 on Jan 28, 2005 9:56:37 GMT -5
its definetely not the joker, he cant move like that. the moves could be done by beetle, but when was the last time he was actually blue beetle. he retired from the costume awhile ago, we really only see him make the occasional cameo in Birds of Prey. Exactly when was the last time Blue Beetle was seen? And he probably trained with Batman during there Justice League days. Beetle was in the Formerly Known as the Justice League series and will be showing up again in Justice League Classified next month. The story takes place pre Identity Crisis though, since Sue is still alive and has a role in that arc. Beetle might have been in one of the group shots in IDC, but I don't have the issues here at hand, so that's just speculation on my part. |
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Post by anthonywayne on Jan 28, 2005 11:17:03 GMT -5
We're going to go crazy with all this speculation. It's obvious this is someone who knows Bruce is Batman, it's someone who has moves that rival Bat's moves, it's someone who is...well, another Hush. But it's not Hush...is it? Oy.
Speaking of Hush, I just had a very disturbing thought - is Hush Thomas Wayne come back to life?
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 28, 2005 13:20:08 GMT -5
Speaking of Hush, I just had a very disturbing thought - is Hush Thomas Wayne come back to life?  God, I hope not!!!  |
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Post by jlavaia on Jan 28, 2005 20:12:26 GMT -5
now i was thinking that it could possibly be Richard Dragon, he did train Batman, and i was trying to think of a reason why he would, and then it came to me. everyone is assuming that Red Hood is a man. Who says its not a woman. Harley Quinn can move like Red Hood does in 636, and Joker was the first red hood. Lady Shiva can also move like that, as can Huntress, though i hope its not her, unless they really have her go all out and become a top tier villain. also Winick writes Outsiders, Batman led the original Outsiders, this brings to mind another female who can move like that Katana. and since every character has a chance of returning from the dead, it could then be Stephanie Brown.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 28, 2005 20:28:49 GMT -5
looked a bit blocky to me to be a female villian but then again......
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Post by /\/\att on Mar 7, 2005 3:48:13 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]here's one..what about Anarky? His real father IS the joker after all. He has the intelligence to figure out Batman's identity. He's young..agile..and would be familiar to the bat-family....[/shadow]
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 7, 2005 9:26:44 GMT -5
[shadow=green,left,300]here's one..what about Anarky? His real father IS the joker after all. He has the intelligence to figure out Batman's identity. He's young..agile..and would be familiar to the bat-family....[/shadow] Hmmm.... thats possible alrite |
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 7, 2005 19:45:09 GMT -5
that is a good one, it could be Creeper as well, as both Creeper and Jack Ryder he can get information, on both batman's id and on Black Mask's operation. i mean whoever it is got the jump on Batman on alot of things. Red Hood is getting or has solid info.
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Post by Josh on Mar 7, 2005 23:32:25 GMT -5
[glow=blue,2,300]Anarchy and Creeper are both very legit guesses, and are actually ones that I'd find surprising.[/glow]
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Post by gotham95 on Mar 7, 2005 23:35:58 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]It could be someone that has failed as a villian or lost respect and is trying to recapture the edge.[/shadow]
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 8, 2005 20:48:55 GMT -5
whoever it is also has a grudge against Black Mask. Black Mask really hasn't had too many other enemies. then i thought about, flipped through some older issues with Black Mask in them. came up with nothing. then it dawned on me, what if Orpheus didn't die. He can fight, he has a grudge against Black Mask, and he had alot of connections. also the next arc is titled "family reunion". Orpheus first appeared in the Bat-Family miniseries. during the next arc he will be teaming with Onyx to go after Black Mask. the more i think about it, the more it seems to fit. Jason Todd just seems too easy and non surprising.
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Post by gotham95 on Mar 8, 2005 23:30:28 GMT -5
whoever it is also has a grudge against Black Mask. Black Mask really hasn't had too many other enemies. then i thought about, flipped through some older issues with Black Mask in them. came up with nothing. then it dawned on me, what if Orpheus didn't die. He can fight, he has a grudge against Black Mask, and he had alot of connections. also the next arc is titled "family reunion". Orpheus first appeared in the Bat-Family miniseries. during the next arc he will be teaming with Onyx to go after Black Mask. the more i think about it, the more it seems to fit. Jason Todd just seems too easy and non surprising. [shadow=blue,left,300]Very interesting. I haven't thought of it from that angle yet. Would match the DC's make you think one way then spring a surprise method.[/shadow] |
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 8, 2005 23:37:36 GMT -5
whoever it is also has a grudge against Black Mask. Black Mask really hasn't had too many other enemies. then i thought about, flipped through some older issues with Black Mask in them. came up with nothing. then it dawned on me, what if Orpheus didn't die. He can fight, he has a grudge against Black Mask, and he had alot of connections. also the next arc is titled "family reunion". Orpheus first appeared in the Bat-Family miniseries. during the next arc he will be teaming with Onyx to go after Black Mask. the more i think about it, the more it seems to fit. Jason Todd just seems too easy and non surprising. That is a SOLID and very interesting theory Jlavaia in fact its peaked my interest in this topic again |
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Post by /\/\att on Mar 9, 2005 4:52:15 GMT -5
Orpheus is a very interesting option. good call.
Question..I'm not all that familiar with him, although I did read Orpheus Rising. Does he by chance have a son? Its just that the reflection looked younger than Orpheus. Onyx would still work with his or maybe even their child.....
who knows
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 9, 2005 21:03:46 GMT -5
its a definite possibility. not much is known about Onyx, and even is known of Orpheus. so they could have child that we don't know about.
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Post by BlackBat on Mar 10, 2005 12:35:27 GMT -5
I'm saying the new red hood is Ra's Ah Ghul.
I don't think they'd leave him dead, especially with him being such a big player in the new movie. They're gonna want to hype the character. I'm figuring they brought him back with a pit, and also managed to reverse his aging some. Check out the dagger he uses against Batman, definately a Ra's weapon. It also fits that he knows everything about Batman and his fighting style.
At least that's my theory currently. ;D
~Tim
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 10, 2005 20:29:15 GMT -5
another good theory. i cant wait to find out. i'm really hating that this month has five weeks. i have to wait for Batman # 638, DC Countdown, and Outsiders # 22. now here's a question, at the end of 637, Red Hood stole a box of over 100 pounds of kryptonite. i thought Batman had the last piece of kryptonite left on the planet. where did Black Mask find all that kryptonite?
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Post by tmthomas on Mar 11, 2005 14:31:10 GMT -5
I Agree that dagger screams a Ra's weapon. So here are a few ideas 1) Jason Todd gets the blade after arising from the pit. 2) Ubu? 3) A young Ra's Ah Ghul 4) The son batman had with talia in the son of the demon, I mean that has to come into play sometime right? I'm saying the new red hood is Ra's Ah Ghul. I don't think they'd leave him dead, especially with him being such a big player in the new movie. They're gonna want to hype the character. I'm figuring they brought him back with a pit, and also managed to reverse his aging some. Check out the dagger he uses against Batman, definately a Ra's weapon. It also fits that he knows everything about Batman and his fighting style. At least that's my theory currently. ;D ~Tim |
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Post by HUSH on Mar 11, 2005 20:31:34 GMT -5
I really like the theories of young Ra's or Batman and Talia's son.  I'm sure by now that it's not Jason. |
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 11, 2005 22:23:37 GMT -5
i thought "son of the demon" was elseworlds. if its not, then their kid goes up near the top of the list of who it could be. but i really think that it was an elseworlds story.
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Post by Batlaw on Mar 12, 2005 1:19:54 GMT -5
i thought "son of the demon" was elseworlds Son of the Demon was printed just prior to the formal Elseworlds label. Since then, once in a while someone will elude that "we havnt heard the end of that tale". Yet every formal article, comment, Etc. I have heard is that D.C. now officially classifies it an Elseworlds story, despite it lacking the actual indicia. I personally think that particulay "arrow" is one the company wants to keep in their quiver, Just in case? |
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Post by HUSH on Mar 12, 2005 2:49:40 GMT -5
I personally think that particulay "arrow" is one the company wants to keep in their quiver, Just in case? Interesting....I hope they use it for this Red Hood story. |
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Post by gotham95 on Mar 14, 2005 22:02:04 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300]POSSIBLE SPOILER
Look at what DC says about Batman #641:
The Red Hood has Onyx on her heels, but Batman's still in Metropolis! Can the Dark Knight get back to Gotham in time to save the urban heroine from the city's latest costumed psycho killer? Don't miss the thrilling conclusion of "Family Reunion!"
her??[/shadow]
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Post by jasontodd2 on Mar 15, 2005 16:48:32 GMT -5
Son of the Demon was printed just prior to the formal Elseworlds label. Since then, once in a while someone will elude that "we havnt heard the end of that tale". Yet every formal article, comment, Etc. I have heard is that D.C. now officially classifies it an Elseworlds story, despite it lacking the actual indicia. I personally think that particulay "arrow" is one the company wants to keep in their quiver, Just in case? Was this a pre crisis story or after crisis arc? |
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Post by Batlaw on Mar 15, 2005 17:00:44 GMT -5
Was this a pre crisis story or after crisis arc? I'm about 90% sure it was POST Crisis? (but dont hold me to it lol) |
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 15, 2005 17:01:16 GMT -5
[shadow=blue,left,300] Look at what DC says about Batman #641: The Red Hood has Onyx on her heels, but Batman's still in Metropolis! her??[/shadow] i noticed that myself, and i had a few theories about that earlier in this discussion. but it could be saying: the red hood is on Onyx's heels, or the Red Hood has Onyx on her (meaning the Red Hood) heels. also for those who say Anarky, he could still be it, but he's back as himself in Green Arrow # 51. |
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Post by /\/\att on Mar 15, 2005 17:04:46 GMT -5
interesting Gotham! I wonder if its Steph.....  |
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Post by jasontodd2 on Mar 15, 2005 17:08:31 GMT -5
I'm about 90% sure it was POST Crisis? (but dont hold me to it lol) thanks. So it could be the son of Bruce and Talia, which could be very interesting... But I will still go with Ted Kord |
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Post by jlavaia on Mar 15, 2005 17:10:06 GMT -5
thats a good thought, if you look close at the mask it does look similiar to her Spoiler mask.
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